Opinion for Best ZTR for Hills

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by fireman1000, Apr 12, 2014.

  1. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Realslow

    Dont believe everything your told, especially from dealers/salesman. Its best to base things on experience. Separate pumps and motors is a thing of the past. Transaxles have already started taking over the industry and with less than a 1% warranty rate have proven more than reliable. Kubota made transaxles are by far the best in the industry and will last longer the Hustlers system hands down.
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  2. gcbailey

    gcbailey LawnSite Silver Member
    from WV
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    I believe a lot of people fall into the "looks" category... They see a Dixie and see this clunky looking thing and write it off as 1980's tech. They think if it looks "cool" and "streamlined" then it must be the best technology out there.

    The nearest Dixie dealer for me is about 45 minutes away and I've looked at their 4x4. It's a pretty awesome machine.
     
  3. Snyder's Lawn Inc

    Snyder's Lawn Inc LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I don't think they will I know a home owner has one and its transaxles went out twice reason I know both times it broke I had to mow his lawn for him

    But everything has there flaws
     
  4. Snyder's Lawn Inc

    Snyder's Lawn Inc LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Yes the Look is what people wants

    DC has went that discretion with there Homeowner models went same features of a lot other mowers

    I like my Classic models My 1988 looks like my 2013 Built same way rides the same way and the ride and cut is what sold me to keep buying them
    They could make them look like a hotdog I still would buy it
     
  5. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Its actually already begun. Most major manufacturers are using 5400's on their top of the line machines. Just like anything there are better transaxles than others. My experience is with the 5400's.
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  6. Realslowww

    Realslowww LawnSite Bronze Member
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    That is not what I am saying, transaxles all in one are great, the Kabuki has 5 gallons of fluid with a filter and that is great. The point with the Hustler is there system can do more work than the others if set up right. The pump system would run the 3100 pound Kwik Kut with no problem.

    There HD machine with duallies and 2 speed wheel motors could pull 1500 pounds worth of tow behinds at 10 or 12 MPH with no problem.

    I have talked to professional Hydraulic rebuilders about this and they say the Hustler system is worth rebuilding and they do but a 5400 Dyna they say pitch it in the garbage. The rebuilders told me the Hustler system was a normal industrial system they rebuild and the other stuff is throw it in the trash and buy new.

    They call the ZTR system's used disposable junk and say a Super HD system is OK to work with.

    I have no problem with any product but I want something thats engineered to where it is fast, easy and cheap to fix and Kabukie is not it.
     
  7. DXN1EL

    DXN1EL LawnSite Senior Member
    from TEXAS
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    The Kubota "Rear main seal" thing was a problem in 2003? Which problem was solved.
     
  8. Realslowww

    Realslowww LawnSite Bronze Member
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    The Kubota is the most awesome mower I have seen but to awesome for me. There is a lot that can go wrong with it and you are not adapting after market on that baby.
     
  9. gcbailey

    gcbailey LawnSite Silver Member
    from WV
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    There may be a lot that can go wrong, but they are using technology that has been tested and used for decades. If it worked on their sub compacts in the 80's it's a pretty tried and true system. I believe their biggest changes have been to the decks.
     
  10. JCLawn and more

    JCLawn and more LawnSite Fanatic
    from MI
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    Go to hustler and try to order parts for either the wheel motor or the pump. Just try and report back to me how easy it is. Ill give you a tip, hustler does not sell parts for either the parker wheel motor or the Danfoss DDC-20 pump. You have to do to that particular hydro dealer and by the parts. I found this out with parker when I tried ordering parts for a husky ztr.
     

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