Opinion for Best ZTR for Hills

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by fireman1000, Apr 12, 2014.

  1. Realslowww

    Realslowww LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Was that price new?
     
  2. JCLawn and more

    JCLawn and more LawnSite Fanatic
    from MI
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    Its not a normal transaxle. It you see how big it is? Transaxles means there is less to go wrong. I mean it only holds just shy of 5 gals of hydro oil, w filters, a fan, and cooled over the radiator. If you had plastic over metal, ya you could loose some weight. Also on a Z you don't normally tip over, you slide.
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  3. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    These pictures show the differences in build. The Kubota is in its own league(10000 hour machine) while the Gravely and Hustler are very similar to each other but look tiny compared to the Kubota. I still think Gravely and Hustler are tops in build quality but they are not built like a tractor.

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  4. gcbailey

    gcbailey LawnSite Silver Member
    from WV
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    Kubota took parts from their BX series of subcompact tractors and said "eh... let's build a ZTR". The ZD series of Kubota are beyond beast mode. I would throw one in front of a Peterbilt. I'm an Exmark guy myself, but as far as overbuilt, the trophy goes to Kubota...
     
  5. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Its no secret that I was a Scag guy for 15+ years. Then I demoed the Gravely 400 series. IMO the Gravely 400 series has the best combination of cut quality, comfort, handling, and build in the industry. BUT I have no problem admitting when another company does something better. In this case Kubota builds a bigger, stronger machine that will outlast any other in the industry.
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  6. Realslowww

    Realslowww LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Don't kid yourself, there is a lot of unnecessary fat on that mower, weight speaks for it self. The Hustler has no fat and the Kabukie has a good bit. I could tear that mower up easier than my Hustler, trust me I am part black and a master at Fn stuff up.
     
  7. Realslowww

    Realslowww LawnSite Bronze Member
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    That is just not true, the Kabukie is a piece of art I will give it that and I would have loved to have taken that 72 hone but I had a nice long conversation with the airport grounds guy and the mowers were no where near as reliable as his Hustlers when you factor in chimps were operating them daily cutting around a 1000 acres weekly.

    And by the way the Hustler is made better than the Gravely on several fronts.
     
  8. Realslowww

    Realslowww LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I will guarantee you a Super will take more abuse than that Kabukie. Lets see which one holds up better running it out of water an antifreeze :laugh: I have to admit for the money I was really impressed, for a extra grand or 2 you get alot more mower but to much by my book.
     
  9. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Im sorry but I completely disagree with just about everything you say. No offense but you are very blinded by brand loyalty. Repeating what somebody told you about a machine is just hearsay. You need real world experience. Im telling you that it is not uncommon for a Kubota to go 10000 hours. I have owned, demoed, or used almost every major brand. I studied the Super HD in great detail and posted pics. The only thing the Super HD has over the 400 series is speed. And maybe better deck bracing.
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  10. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    How many 10000 hour Supers have you seen?
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