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opinions on pool deck drainage

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by DVS Hardscaper, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,403

    We have a large pool deck job we're pricing. At the moment, there is that 1" plastic drain that pool contractors always install with their pools.

    We're taking out the concrete decking and installing pavers. We will need to replace that little drain the pool guys installed. It's about 50' of length (big pool deck, big house).

    At the moment the pool deck falls towards their basement. But there is this little 1"wide drain that collects the water before it makes it's way to the basement door/wall. Seems to be working. However, in the past I have seen them clogged with sediment. Personally, I hate them.

    In the past we have used 'Dura-slope' drain system. Which is basically a 6" wide box. Each box is 4' long and increases in depth. And the boxes are numbered and connect to one another in order of the numbers. GREAT drain system. And what's great about it is it allows you to keep the pavement level, as the boxes increase in depth. Problem is.....they're $90 / 4' section! And that doesn't include the grates! We're talking $1900 in materials for 50' of drain :(

    The drain that the pool contractor installed has no pitch to it. It's level.

    What types of drains do you guys use to drain water from pool decks? I'm thinking if the little 1" pool deck drain was working, than a cheap 4" drain will suffice?
     
  2. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,260

    Big house and they can"t afford a big drain? Strip drains look bad and ruin the clean lines of a patio. On my big job I got some brass drains and am putting 3 of them on my patio. We divided the patio into 3 square sections and each sections has a drain in the middle. Looks 10x better then a 6" drain accross the entire thing.
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  3. CALandscapes

    CALandscapes LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 946

    The cheapo 4" drain will suffice. Once the water collects in the basins it will want to enter into the drain line and continue downhill, as the laws of gravity will attest to.

    I've never even seen the sloped channel drains, although they sound like a good gimmick (gimmick being the key word; $90/ 4' section is insane)

    Long and the short; use the regular cheapos if you're gonna go with a channel drain; they'll work fine without putting your clients over budget.
     
  4. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,403

    thanks!

    Wasn't really needing comments on my clients spending habits. Not my business by any means. But, you know there is a positive to this. Wealthy folks, he's the senior VP of a large, international company that does a lot of fed gov't jobs. They're pinching pennies on our work because they just purchased a well known fast food franchise along with one restaurant and it's real estate. Pinching pennies now, but there is beauty to this - as their restaurant business grows - so will their wallet - and hopefully that will trickle down to me :) So, Rusk-a-Roni, since you're concerned about their affordabilities, do you know the qualifications required to be a fast food franchisee of one of the top fast food franchises??


    Got it taken care of. We're using the Duraslope. And yes, Rusk-a-Roni, they have 3 or 4 nice metal grates available for the duraslope. We use a lot of Duraslope, some of our clients go with the iron grates.


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    Last edited: Aug 12, 2009
  5. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,260

    DVS a strip drain across a patio will look like **** no matter what the grate is. That would not fly in my north jersey market.
     
  6. P.L.

    P.L. LawnSite Member
    from USA
    Posts: 67

    I've used the duraslope before and think it's a good product. It easy to install and has many grate options which don't look bad at all.
     
  7. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    Yeah, "jersey". The state that hit 12% unemployment around July 18..........







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  8. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    The grate options just came available in April 2008. VERY heavy iron at that too, exceeded what I was expecting.
     
  9. P.L.

    P.L. LawnSite Member
    from USA
    Posts: 67

    Maybe what I used was not duraslope but it was exactly like you described. I installed it in front of garage doors 4 or 5 years ago. The customer purchased the grate and I remember him saying it was pricey. At that time they had several different grate options, the ones I used were steel black grates.
     
  10. Drakeslayer

    Drakeslayer LawnSite Member
    Posts: 137

    Dura slope. Marked up I sell it for $57 a foot. Homeowners are clueless.
     

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