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organic vs. non organic fertilizer

Discussion in 'Fertilizer Application' started by grassmasterswilson, Sep 18, 2012.

  1. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    While Compost is the preferred top dressing after Hollow core, Not everyone has the equipment to do it economically. fl-landscapes has all the Equipment to spread compost from the 33,000 GVW Dump truck to the Motorized top dresser. Even then he is unhappy with Charging only $ 40 a thousand to spread a $ 5.00 a yard Compost. While this sounds like a big profit margin the equipment cost a small fortune. There is a lot of work to compost compared to a little organic fertilizer. So yes Organic Fertilizer is a short cut and not as good as Compost top dressing.


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  2. BTC

    BTC LawnSite Member
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    Where can you find all of these products? I know that Lowe's and Home Depot carry Milorganite, but what about the other products mentioned? Does JDL carry any of these products?

    I'm just a homeowner btw.
     
  3. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
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    Just find a source of high quality bulk compost.
     
  4. phasthound

    phasthound LawnSite Platinum Member
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    The next big questions are, where? and how do I know it's high quality?
    If a homeowner has enough deciduous trees to collect and compost the leaves, that's a good place to start. Learn how to make your own.

    For the professional LCO, finding a source of quality bulk compost can be very difficult.
     
  5. BTC

    BTC LawnSite Member
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    I'm pretty sure there is a local place that will deliver compost by the yard, but can it be spread with a rotary spreader? I'm assuming the other products are pelletized. The recommendation for the compost I'm referring to is that it be worked into the soil, but that may not be absolutely necessary. The other stuff just sounds like it would be an easier approach.

    I've also got got an area in front of my house with a lot of trees. I was planning to just blow the leaves off the yard, but I've been reading a lot of stuff lately that recommends mulching them into the yard.

    I think my lawn would benefit greatly from a heavy dose of organic matter.
     
  6. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    Here in my part of Florida we have several Horticultural recycling centers. They have Tub Grinders that chew up Shrub Trimming that are then piled in great mountians to compost.

    We have two Older recycle centers that have very good aged Compost. However I don't think their compost could be certified for a Pure Organic Farm because the Compost might have residual Pesticides.


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  7. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
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    Unless you are dealing with acres of land, spreading the compost manually is not that big a deal.
     
  8. BTC

    BTC LawnSite Member
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    Does it need to be worked into the soil, or can you just spread it and leave it? Does it offer benefits beyond the organic products mentioned in this thread?
     
  9. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
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    Ideally you want to till it in as deep as you reasonably can. That said, tilling is sometimes not an option so you are left with topdressing. How much you topdress depends on where you are applying it and for what reason.

    Benefits = price to volume ratio
    Also using local sources is a more sustainable approach.
     
  10. GravelyWalker

    GravelyWalker LawnSite Member
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    I believe the "organic community" believes something being organic should come from an organic source. Since I would guess 90% of the people in Milwaukee(i think thats where its made) consume massive amounts on inorganic matter (mcdonalds, soda pop, lots and lots of synthetic preservatives) the microbes they are collecting have been feeding on inorganic waste. So they cant call it 100% organic.
     

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