organic vs non organic

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by B16bri, Feb 11, 2014.

  1. B16bri

    B16bri LawnSite Member
    Posts: 96

    Hey guys Ide like to see what you put down on your customers lawns. How many of you use strictly Chemical (non organic) ? How many people use strictly organic ? And how many people use a hybrid approach of both and why have you chosen this plan ?
  2. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
    from midwest
    Posts: 5,852

    Conventional, synthetic organic, natural organic. Sorry folks, but the plant doesn't care, and the fact is -- all of the above contain carbon which means they are ALL "organic".
  3. dKoester

    dKoester LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,257

    Nitrates in soil promote weeds.
    Lack of available calcium in soil promotes deep rooted weeds like dandelions.
    Compacted soil promotes clover.

    Weeds are not the problem. Your soil is.
  4. Victorsaur

    Victorsaur LawnSite Member
    Posts: 81

    The question is not necessarily as much organic or non organic as much as whether the fertilizer / pesticide used is chemical or not. When chemical fertilizers are used intensively the microbiology of the land is adversely affected and the land becomes infertile. 85% of most phosphorous fertilizers are wasted in commercial farming due to lack of microbiology in the soil...
  5. ecoguy

    ecoguy LawnSite Member
    from Duncan
    Posts: 234

    I agree with dKoester. Lawn care is about feeding the natural processes already at work in the soil. The only chemicals that can be found in our program is Fiesta which to be honest is only to help the customer feel a bit better in the moment because as many of you know, Fiesta is not effective as a long term control strategy.. We feed exclusively with meals and compost top dressing at just the right time. Our lawns are very happy and so are we. I would be even happier if the meals were GMO free but that's the world we live in at the moment.
  6. emg35

    emg35 LawnSite Member
    from CA
    Posts: 18

    We generally only use grow power if needed and our standby is compost tea. Weeds in lawns are hand pick.
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  7. HayBay

    HayBay LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ontario
    Posts: 846

    Weeds in the lawn that is acceptable to the customer is not a successful organic lawn.
    1 time rescue treatments with synthetic pesticides is not a successful organic lawn.

    apply all the soil corrections and get the microbial activity to whatever level you want. Weeds including dandelions are gonna grow in your lawn if you don't control them with pesticides.

    If you ignore a lawn or you just fertilize the lawn, it will look better if you do something as opposed to nothing.

    No Till GMO technology is the true outperformer. Sorry to break a few hearts.
  8. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
    from midwest
    Posts: 5,852

    Junk science right here. Better alert American farmers about this. :rolleyes:
  9. dKoester

    dKoester LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,257

    Most American farmers use pesticides. Don't take this up with me either go take it up with Dr. Elaine Ingham. If your crops are so healthy then why are most brix numbers so low for the Non organic farmer? Why do they cringe when asked if you can brix test their crops?
  10. New2TheGreenIndustry

    New2TheGreenIndustry LawnSite Senior Member
    from GA
    Posts: 861

    Can anyone recommend some good reading on building soils and organic lawns?

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