Ok it's time for me to quit lurking behind closed doors. I'm a locksmith at a mid sized university. I help with grounds care snowplowing and anything else that needs to be done .But since I'm the resident motorhead and country bumpkin I get to be heavily involved in new equiptment purchases. The information i've gleaned from you guys is incredible. For example we bought a aervator a-40 after reading good feedback on it from the forum. Also I purchased a lazer hp for my home use. 2.5 acres of lawn and four acres of pasture. I'd never have spent that much without the glowing reports from you guys. thanks again.