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Overbidding unwanted commercials?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Lynden-Jeff, Mar 26, 2007.

  1. Lynden-Jeff

    Lynden-Jeff LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,405


    Im looking at a commercial property. The place is a dive, its a pretty straight forward contract. About 4 acres total property maybe 2 acres of grass spread out in many different sections. The downside is 20-30% or more of the grass is on VERY steep inclines, steep enough to be 21" or string trim. I would really rather not have this property however is there anything wrong with over bidding a little and if I get it then its worth my time? I was thinking around $400 a visit, 4 hours for a 3 man crew.

  2. nick-bigfootlawn

    nick-bigfootlawn LawnSite Member
    Posts: 106

    If you really didnt want it, try getting more than $400, I could see $400 if you really wanted it (4 hrs w/ 3 men)!
  3. sildoc

    sildoc LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,925

    I over bid all the time on things I don't want. the problem is I get more than I usually want because everyone else is overbidding also. I find that after a few visits I find a way to make it quicker than I even thought of. try using a larger walk behind or a hover mower. set in terms that those areas are eow durring growing season and every month out of growing season.
    there are ways to do this and still make real good money. This is especially true if you are not doing the work.
  4. General Landscaping

    General Landscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 802

    I'd be bidding that much if I was really stoked to get the contract.

    But to answer the ?.... Don't turn down work... just charge what it's worth to you. If it's a big pain, then charge accordingly.payup Figure out what you need to make profit then keep adding till you start smiling:)
  5. Precision

    Precision LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,995

    That is $33.33 per man hour per visit. I am thinking you are way cheap, especially if you really don't want it. I would go 50% higher just to be at my desired minimum rate.
  6. NNJLandman

    NNJLandman LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,306

    Why not say $500.00, more than likely, others will see your same problem and raise the price...throw a number out there. I always say, "whats the worse they can do...say no to the the price" Plus when and if they say we'll go with your bid, your way ahead and turn a good buck.
  7. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 11,062

    $400 for a 12 man-hour job you don't want?

    Divide $400 by 12
    Then subtract all your direct and indirect expenses

    Now... are you even in the black on it?
  8. Rhinox29

    Rhinox29 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 134

    I just did this the other day on a commercial bid. Had a bunch of ditches a pond with weeds a mile high around it and a bunch of construction junk laying all over the place and garbage ( very junky). Bad thing is my sister in-law works there and refered me. Found out I was double the winning bid.
  9. Precision

    Precision LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,995

    thats the best way to be on those kind. Let someone else ruin their equipment and not make a profit.
  10. causalitist

    causalitist LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 610

    thats $33 per man/hour ... i wouldnt do it for that even if i wanted it.

    prolly $660 .. and i have low overhead cuz im solo

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