Alright..........another year and another sorry outcome on my overseeding attempts. Last year I asked the question and got some good answers from members concerning overseeding. I went heavier with the seed this year and also put it out earlier than last year. This year it went out before 10-15-03 and during that period of time we were having some pretty warm days, warm enough and with enough dew that this "ammual rye seed" should have had ample time to germinate before the colder weather got here. All this was a waste again. I put the seed in my own yard and on a couple commercial accounts. Question # 1. When broadcast seeding over centipede.........have you found that it doesn't do as well on this type of grass? One of the commercial accounts I overseeded has a nice thick stand of centipede. I'm beginning to think that since this grass has it's root system above ground ........... or runners at least........that the seed has a hard time settling down to the soil. Question # 2. I have been using "annual" rye seed. Has anyone tried using "perrineal" seed down south and if so what was the result. I'm thinking of buying a bag of this seed and sampling it in my yard. We should be getting some warmer weather before too much longer and I think it would germinate OK. Success.......? Failure.........? Let me know what works or doesn't for you.