"Nothing bugs me more than seeing a home lit up with all MR16's...or even all PAR's for that matter. It shows a complete lack in design skills in my opinion, or they just wanted to get the job and get out without spending much thought on it." I couldnt have agreed more here Dave. The Par has it's place in lighting design weather Eden is willing to admit or not. Why hate the only lamp (that I know of) that was designed for landscape lighting. We should embrace it!! I still respect you Eddie! We shall agree to disagree here!