Paver steps

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by scraper69, Mar 31, 2005.

  1. scraper69

    scraper69 LawnSite Senior Member
    from mi
    Posts: 477

    just got to bid on a paver patio today, however the rise from ground grade to doorwall is 30" and the client doent want a raised patio. What are your suggestions for step set up. 3 steps ? tricky Thank for any input.

    Patio is going to be ground level using 4x8 pavers and about 10x10 area.
     
  2. Residential Recreation

    Residential Recreation LawnSite Member
    Posts: 74

    i use retaining wall and pavers to fill in between to creat a circle look whithout having to cut the wall the min radius is 3' also check out kingsstair a lot of companies offer manufactured paving steps that all you need to do is add pavers
     
  3. Residential Recreation

    Residential Recreation LawnSite Member
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    what part of michigan are you in i need somebody in union area
     
  4. scraper69

    scraper69 LawnSite Senior Member
    from mi
    Posts: 477

    not near Union ... sorry
     
  5. scraper69

    scraper69 LawnSite Senior Member
    from mi
    Posts: 477

    pre fab steps come in 6" rise and I would need too many.. thinkin of changing the layout and raising the patio up 6" off ground and have two steps.?
     
  6. treedoc1

    treedoc1 LawnSite Senior Member
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    30" is a large rise.
    Over 7" rise is uncomfortable to most people under 6' tall
    I use standard concrete block on a poured footer to make my steps, then face them with the paving material.
    Make sure you take into account the thickness of your paving material on top of the block. Adjust off the final grade of the patio to make sure all steps have identical rise.
     
  7. cgland

    cgland LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Here is a pic of how we handled that situation. Maybe two.

    Chris
     
  8. jreiff

    jreiff LawnSite Senior Member
    from MN
    Posts: 402

    Think about that one there. You have a 30" drop from the threshold of the door to the ground. So you want to raise the patio 6", that still gives you a 24" drop. And you think that you can get two steps in, well that would be a 12" riser on both steps. NOT likely. Like treedoc1 said, anything over 7" is uncomfortable. If you raised the patio 6", then you would need 4 steps. Look at cgland pics. Those are great examples. Do something like that.

    Personally, not seeing the job, i would build that patio at ground level, and put in 5 steps. Build your steps before your patio. Build some steps like cgland pics shows and then go from there. Do a little landing coming out the door and then have you 5 steps. Which would be 6" steps. That is pretty typical for steps using retaining wall block. Then either use cap or pavers.

    Hope this helps alittle. You have any pics of where the patio is going?
     
  9. jreiff

    jreiff LawnSite Senior Member
    from MN
    Posts: 402

  10. scraper69

    scraper69 LawnSite Senior Member
    from mi
    Posts: 477

    no pics yet. but imagine a doorwall 30inches off ground level. I hate to see 5 steps on a 10x10 patio - basically all steps...
     

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