Sorry about all of the threads i have going. I am just eager to learn. At the end of last week i saw an add in the paper for an apartment complex in town up for bid. There are only two Lawn and Landscape companies in the area Me and a friend of mine's. Well i go to speak to the property manager. I took everything i needed. A portfolio with pictures of clean equipment, lawns i do, and copies of my liscense and insurance. Well, i give her the presentation and when i ask about her needs and concerns...... She tells me, "Sorry, we are no longer accepting bids." I was okay with this until yesterday my friend goes up there and speaks to her and gets hired on the spot!!! What the heck. He is 38 years old and i am 18 years old. Well i wore nice khaki's with a company tee shirt (didn't matter you couldn't see it) and a company windbreaker over it. He wears his dirty work uniform and gets it. This just burns me up. And i have better equipment and do equally as good if not better than he. What do i need to do for people to take me seriously. I never have this problem but with commercial accounts.