per plant price

Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by clcscaper, Nov 13, 2008.

  1. ARGOS

    ARGOS LawnSite Silver Member
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    You guys are inexpensive. We have tiered rates starting at $35 and going to $65 for masonry or irrigation. $7.50 is where we start for the 1 gallon.

    I don't think Georgia will need a jackhammer. We tote around the jack hammer and spade bit too. We use it a lot for trenching.
     
  2. clcscaper

    clcscaper LawnSite Member
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    thanks for all the great info guys. I didn't realize I was starting such a discussion.
     
  3. Dhouse

    Dhouse LawnSite Member
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    We usually charge 2.5 times the plant price - this covers pickup, delivery, installation and a 1 year warranty. This doesn't apply to perennials just shrubs and trees.
    So 10% profit on a landscape job is the going rate for landscape installs?
     
  4. Casey21

    Casey21 LawnSite Member
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    If a customer wants to buy the plants then I will give them a day rate for a 3 man crew to come in and plant. 1 day min. I would not warranty there plants that they purchase. I myself like to charge 2x - 2.5x the plant price on a residential install.

    Commercial is different and you really need to know how many plants you can plant in an hour/day because you will never get 2x the plant price on a large commercial job.
     
  5. steve5966

    steve5966 LawnSite Member
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    If your using a multiplier only, your going to be boom or bust. A few plants and you don't make any money, a truckload and you'll make some.

    Figure out what it costs you to do the work before you bid the work. Using a multiplier is the easy way, but at the end of the day you won't know if you actually made a real profit.
     
  6. ford550

    ford550 LawnSite Member
    from PA
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    We don't charge a per plant price. We mark up the cost of the plant to cover warranty and profit and then calculate time (from history records and experience). Too many variables in just saying 2 or 3 times the plant. Like stated before, doing it that way is like pricing per sf on pavers, your going to lose money, every job has different variables.
     
  7. clallen03

    clallen03 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I have read twice that some are expecting 10% profit on landscape install. So for a $5000 install you only profit $500? Maybe Im wrong but that seems like working for free. I do my best to get 33% profit on every landscape job that I bid on. $1500 profit on that $5000 install sounds more like it.
     
  8. steve5966

    steve5966 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 210

    What did your shovel cost you? Truck? Insurance?

    I'll take 12.5 % net profit every day of the week and be a happy guy.
    You need to know what it costs you to do the work before you know your profit. All of our overhead recovery is figured into every bid, as soon as the job is complete i'll know what the profit is.
     
  9. clallen03

    clallen03 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I see your point and my 33% does include all overhead. I think we are on the same page but even after all overhead is recovered I still need more then 10% net profit.
    The bottom line is it normally takes about 2 days to complete a 5k install and if we complete 3 in a week 1500 dollars is still considered peanuts in my book!
     
  10. ford550

    ford550 LawnSite Member
    from PA
    Posts: 221

    So are you saying that at the end of the season at $1500 net profit per week, you would be looking at a $60,000 net profit and that is not good enough? Maybe I am misunderstanding this? After all OH, wages, materials and salaries (including yourself) are paid and that new company profit isn't enough. I need to be given a lesson by you on what I am doing wrong:confused:. Net profit is not what you pay yourself at the end, it is what the company is making. Your salary should have already been recovered in the costs before profit.
     

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