Phase 4 Water Resstrictions

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by FOL, Apr 1, 2009.

  1. bicmudpuppy

    bicmudpuppy LawnSite Silver Member
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    Visuals usually sell better than reams of paper they have to read. If you can find a good healthy 4-6" sod plug, something 6-8" deep that has a good, rich, black soil look to it, and compare it to a core probed from their yard, you might be on to something. Explain the benefits of the richer soil (it looks darker and "better" because it has more SOM) compared to a light brown, sandy or clay soil. Now, if the yard in question looks nearly perfect, I would worry somewhat about pulling a core from the yard. You might find a soil profile that has flourished and will not be a good comparison for this purpose. A 1" soil probe that you can get a core sample from up to 12" deep is a great tool.
     
  2. Ruben Rocha

    Ruben Rocha LawnSite Senior Member
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    I would suggest contacting your local extension service. Not sure where they are in Pasco county but you could start with.
    http://www.prohort.net which is the hillsborough site or google ifas which is the state dept.
    They are great people and have a lot of resources you can use.
    They also offer ceu classes for licenses.
     
  3. Ruben Rocha

    Ruben Rocha LawnSite Senior Member
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    BTW the local news say 350 people in the landscaping business will loose there job based on the new water restrictions. So I don't think there will be much opportunity to get additional business.
    Since nobody will be able to water in new plants or grass.
    And if you think that post is bad in the city of Tampa. No automatic watering is allowed after April 3. So people will be out in the dark with a hose to water the lawn.
     
    Last edited: Apr 2, 2009
  4. FOL

    FOL LawnSite Member
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    Numerous homes in the area are either now on reclaimed water and the more established neighborhoods, homes have wells. Been to the Pinellas, Pasco, and Hernando extension offices. All great places.

    Yes, most lawns are going to start dieing because there being pumped with chemicals and they are used to alot of water. I can not tell you how many chemical/pesticide treated signs I have seen, just recently pop up on peoples lawns the past 3 weeks. This is the reason these lawns need so much water is because of these methods. But with a different approach there is a possibility you can lower your water usage and keep your landscape looking decent. Most people down here over water there lawn anyway. So if people would actually start being educated properly about this, "which is what I am trying to do" some landscapes if maintained properly can survive.

    You sir dont sound like an optimistic individual. The rain will come you need to do the rain dance. :dancing::dancing::dancing:

    Thanks for your everyones help.
     
  5. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
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    FOL and others in FL we have your backside, 2 products are being released in May for FL and the wet season ban so that you can continue to keep up the color and density that your customer expects and be compliant with the laws

    FOL, you can sprig a lot of the varieties that you have down there, look up Pas Pallum, very low nutrient needs but finicky
     
  6. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
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    OH and BTW ..............

    Kiril meant to say...... compost does a soil good

    Start there it is actually very simple
    Good finished compost and compost teas are the basis of a great land care plan

    It really is not any more complicated than that

    You can drill down to the enth degree but in the end it is about fertile soil
     
  7. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
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    I may provide something like this over the next few weeks. I have some soil samples to pull on one of my sites that has areas that have received compost pretty much yearly (sprinkler irrigated lawn) and areas that have only had mulch (drip irrigated beds), and areas that have had a mix.
     
  8. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
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    Yes, and even if you are sitting on a Class 1 soil with great SOM content, you still need water. People need to start thinking about losing the "traditional" lawn and start looking at native alternatives.
     
  9. FOL

    FOL LawnSite Member
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    I forgot to mention I really like that concept bcmud. Thanks for the input.

    By the way it RAINED!!!!:clapping::clapping::clapping:
     
  10. bicmudpuppy

    bicmudpuppy LawnSite Silver Member
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    Would love a picture or two of cores from those sites, compared to a clay profile managed by a spray and pray outfit for several years. We have talked in other posts about some of the "challenges" my artificial ecosystem presents. Many HO expect the "golf course" look from their lawn service. Yes, courses use synthetics, but the large majority of them are operated by ON SITE, educated professionals (I said most). We also do some intense maintenance items that the average HO just isn't willing to pay for. Things like multiple aerifications per season, repeated spoon feeding applications or fertigation, surface applied soil amendments like seaweed or kelp, etc. I know of courses with the kinds of budgets I dream of that top dress fairways 2-3 times per year. The guys that can budget that, are not top dressing with straight sand. It is a mix, and something along the lines of 15%+ peat or other organic matter to make up the mix. If the fairways are amended native soil, the mix is amended native soil. The top dressing would normally be heavier on the OM structure than the original construction mix. It did my heart good to see roots beyond what we could core on my greens this spring. Looks like I am 6-8"+ deep with roots to start the season. Last August, the bottom third of the 4" cores were void of roots.
     

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