pipetracking

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by RhettMan, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. RhettMan

    RhettMan LawnSite Silver Member
    from Texas
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    because pipes are like you boots,

    they dont shoot straight, and lead you all over the . . place before you finally get somewhere, taking turns here, turns there, and lose fish tape in the mix.

    where is my medication...

    thats it, time for a good movie-preview-website and bed. :cool2:
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    P.S. I just realized: Holy ship, Boots did it again, in the same form....although, Jim beat him too it.
    I love this website.
    THANKS!!!!!!!!

    p.s.s what do you mean weeks of planning??? :confused:
     
  2. 1idejim

    1idejim LawnSite Fanatic
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    Rhett the RD5000 uses what they call a Transonde to create a low frequency pressure wave that is located acoustically with a receiver.

    The transonde attaches to a hose bib, a water meter or fire hydrant. each attachment kit is separate.

    I have the manual if you would like it.

    NO INSERTION IS REQUIRED.

    You are fretting over something you can do with practice and a couple welding rods.

    Boots has been harping on water filled pipe locating since before i got here i think. He didn't answer the question of tape resistance though. Everyone knows that copper is used for its current carrying abilities. water has zip to do with the signal.

    Watch the video a few times and try it out yourself.

    I would have an RD5000 if i thought i needed one. I seem to be able to get by real well with voodoo.
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  3. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
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    Not entirely true, unless you think all water is deionized and/or pure. The ability of water to conduct electricity depends on the concentration of ions in solution. More ions in solution, lower resistivity.
     
  4. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
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    The resistance of the fish tape is less than one might think. Less than 10 ohms for the 200-foot tapes I have. http://www.allmeasures.com/formulae/static/materials/31/electrical_resistivity.htm
     
  5. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
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    It would help if the locate problem was described in more detail. If someone wanted me to locate every foot of the half-mile of pipe that exists in a residential lawn sprinkler installation, the first thing I'll say is "Why?"
     
  6. RhettMan

    RhettMan LawnSite Silver Member
    from Texas
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    I agree.

    Why?

    Why is it near impossible to get radiodetection to say/confirm that the rd5000 will infact find pipe without a tracer wire involved? confirm PVC Only?

    Its as if they dont want to sell it....

    Why?
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    because it would be profitable to track pipe.....

    I am digging up laterals by the mile everyday, and im sick of it.

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    my question is,

    why dont yall just tell the guy to swap the damn diaphram, solenoid and bonnet at the same time, its cheaper anyway.
     
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  7. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
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    For a hefty fee, I'd locate every foot of the pipe, but that isn't cost effective for a customer who only wants to plant a lilac bush.

    Sometimes, I don't want to locate the pipe. I sometimes have to fix a poor-performance problem caused by tree roots choking a pipe. I know the problem is between point A and B, but between points A and B are endless amounts of shallow roots feeding a specimen plant worth more than a Mercedes. I run a new pipe the long way around, and the specimen remains undisturbed.

    There may come a day where plastic pipe can be traced as though it were a copper conductor, by way of making the poly pipe an electric conductor, but that's a ways off.
     
  8. 1idejim

    1idejim LawnSite Fanatic
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    RD5000 DON'T NEED NO STINKIN WIRE
    :gunsfiring:
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  9. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
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    You sure you got your model numbers correct, Mister Cogburn?
     
  10. 1idejim

    1idejim LawnSite Fanatic
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    RD500 i stand corrected Mister BadgerBadger

    Typo on the manual i have.
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    I'm gonna need medication after this thread.....gimme some badgers
     

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