Pondless waterfall vault

Discussion in 'Water Features' started by muddywater, Jun 13, 2012.

  1. muddywater

    muddywater LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Read post 113. You get in a hurry to bash me and you skip some posts.

    A valve box rated to handle the weight of the application.

    You say commercial grates are acceptable??? Why? How are they non-corrosive?
     
  2. muddywater

    muddywater LawnSite Bronze Member
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    So you would never use a metal grate in a water feature with no "aqautic life."
     
  3. Duekster

    Duekster LawnSite Fanatic
    from DFW, TX
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    I used brass as an example but if you have dissimilar metals very far apart on the nobility scale then one will deposit on the other in the presents of an electrolyte. SS is corrosion resistant again many thongs but still susceptible to chloride pitting.

    Debris in a pump is always killer.

    We still do not know if Muddy did or did not used metal as he changed his position.
     
  4. muddywater

    muddywater LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Read post 103 and maybe a few before that. Next time you might want to read through the thread before you accuse some one of lying.

    You have not shown any data that would prove your point in this application. Considering people drink out of corroded metal piping to this day, i woild think the amount of corrosion in a nonpotable situation with no aquatic life would be minimal.
     
  5. tadpole

    tadpole LawnSite Bronze Member
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    You are correct. ABS only.
     
  6. muddywater

    muddywater LawnSite Bronze Member
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  7. tadpole

    tadpole LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Yea, I had forgotten that Atlantic had come out with that 'Monsta'. Hefty price tag, too.
    The grate is also available in heavy PVC, which would be my choice. Galvanized steel will corrode quite quickly if the water pH is not monitored.
     
  8. turner_landscaping

    turner_landscaping LawnSite Member
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    That product is a piece of crap at least for around here. Galvenized steel around here would be toast in 2 yrs. Our water ph is around 8 n higher straight out of a well. I have to replace bolts on skimmers constantly cause they have eroded to a nub and leaks occur. Never use metal it will only cause you problem down the road. Use abs grating it.
     
  9. tadpole

    tadpole LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Have the same problem here with skimmer bolts, but because of acid pH.
     
  10. Duekster

    Duekster LawnSite Fanatic
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    That is why I asked if metal was used and you said I insinuated metal and water were not compatible. It was much later you told me you did not use metal. Since you never have me specifics how can I address.

    I do consider that people drink out of metal pipes. Hence the reason there is various types of corrosion contol in those systems depending on the water quality. :waving:
     

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