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Pondless waterfall vault

Discussion in 'Water Features' started by muddywater, Jun 13, 2012.

  1. LeeRobinson

    LeeRobinson LawnSite Member
    Posts: 37

    I only posted it as an option...assuming one could bury and hide the cow bucket with something cosmetic and put their pump in it...all hidden.

    I wouldn't think one would need to be a genius to understand a little bit about a water reservoir for basically a "sump pump" to pump water back up a hill. If I am wrong...my bad.
     
  2. OakNut

    OakNut LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,051

    I did this as a "homeowner" several years ago. I don't know if it will help or get me laughed at, but here it is...

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    I used a small container I bought at a water garden supply place.
    I used bricks to support the weight of the vessel and covered it with a drop-ceiling light grid.

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  3. tadpole

    tadpole LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,216

    No laughter. Looks quite good. You used a planting container of sufficient volume made from fairly heavy ABS, you provided support for the small urn and a grid to support the decorative rocks. For a 5 foot urn the OP will need more reservoir space and considerably more support.
    Nice photos, btw!
     
  4. muddywater

    muddywater LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,813

    You can get a piece of copper pipe and slide over that black bubbler for a classier look.

    I searched ebay for vaults today and couldnt believe the prices.
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  5. tadpole

    tadpole LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,216

    Professionally installed quality Water Features are not and will never be a Thrift Store item. Specialty luxury items never are. It's the nature of the beast.
     
  6. OakNut

    OakNut LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,051

    Thanks. The whole thing was my first attempt at such things.

    I could have gone out and bought one of those "kits" and been done with it, but I wanted something unique, and we wanted a blue pot, as we were planning a "blue garden" for that section.
    I built the wall as well...

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    I want to say it was 6 years ago that I built it and it hasn't moved. (PA winters) Every stone is solid. I enjoyed building it, but it's a lot of work doing it by yourself, so that's why I stick to mowing and such. ;)




    Thanks for the tip!!!
     
  7. muddywater

    muddywater LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,813

    Either way its a rip off. I would rather make more profit, or discount the job to get it. Maybe paying $300 for a piece of plastic makes you feel more professional? It makes me feel like a sucker!
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  8. tadpole

    tadpole LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,216

    When I use manufactured components, it is done so because I know that a considerable amount of research and engineering have gone into the development of that product with the result being that I am confident that the product will generally meet the needs for which it is designed. That is not to say that I will not improvise on occasion.
    The idea of using less than ideal materials for a project in order to increase the profit margin is unquestionably UN-professional and results in the customer being made as the sucker for paying for something of lower quality than they had bargained for.
     
  9. muddywater

    muddywater LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,813

    Yeah anything i would improvise would be of the same quality or better than a $10 piece of engineered plastic and neither i or the customer would pay unnessary costs. I know the savings i will have not using a vault on my current project will keep the project within my clients budget and she will be able to have a nicer water feature. And quality will not be sacrificed. Client is going to get a nice affordable water feature and we get to bill out for 30 man hours. Win-win.
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  10. tadpole

    tadpole LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,216

    I would be interested in seeing your eventual solution. I sure others on this forum would also be interested. Post your final list of materials and components, and maybe a photo or two of the construction stages.
     

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