Pool Waterfall

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by Gr8WhiteNorth, Jul 9, 2010.

  1. Gr8WhiteNorth

    Gr8WhiteNorth LawnSite Senior Member
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    I'm looking to educate myself on contructing a waterfall adjacent to a pool. The plumbing is already existing and a 3 foot wide concrete skirt is in place so now I just need the know-how.

    I've done waterfalls into ponds we've built ranging from 1-8 feet in height, using rubber liner. I assume most details will be the same.


    My specific question is more related to how to waterproof the build so any spilled water makes it back to the pool.

    let me know
     
  2. tadpole

    tadpole LawnSite Bronze Member
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    One tier, Two tier or ? If multi-tier, what is set back distance?

    Natural rock, concrete, Faux rock?

    Is decking cut out for Waterfall footprint or will build be on top of decking?

    What is the "skirt" that you refer to?

    More info and definitely pics of job site!
     
  3. Gr8WhiteNorth

    Gr8WhiteNorth LawnSite Senior Member
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    The design is open right now. I was hoping 2-3 tiers with natural limestone.

    The term skirt must be what you are referring to as decking. I would prefer to build on the decking unless you would advise against it.

    The pool is in a new development area that we sodded last year. There is a 2% grade change from the back of the house. The backyard is about 65' wide x 48' deep. The pool is centered in the backyard and measures 31' x 18'. Pool design is a "Fiji left" (kidney with larger radius deep end).

    Hope this helps.

    I got to figure out how to post pics on this site!!
     
  4. Gr8WhiteNorth

    Gr8WhiteNorth LawnSite Senior Member
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    Ok, so here are the what the customer has given me to work with to create my drawing and price the job. Rough, but it will work.
     

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  5. tadpole

    tadpole LawnSite Bronze Member
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    We all like to think that we can and will build Water Features that will not leak, and most of the time we will succeed. Even so, there still lurks in the back of our minds the knowledge that the slightest certain shift in a particular rock can cause water diversion of catastrophic proportions. (At least it seems catastrophic.) So I don't blame you for wanting to incorporate an additional safeguard for leak control.

    This is how I have done it and it is fairly simple You use a separate piece of EPDM as a leak catcher and diverter.

    This liner should extend at least 1 foot beyond the footprint of the constructed waterfall and be graded (Min. 2 degrees) toward the Pool

    Below is a pic of small one that I did 3 years ago.

    Also I incorporated Faux rock coping to hide the overhang of the liner. The link for that is-
    http://www.rockandwater.com/HTM Files/pool_coping.htm

    You can dry stack or mortar.

    Wtrfll Base SwimPl.JPG

    Waddell3.jpg
     
  6. Gr8WhiteNorth

    Gr8WhiteNorth LawnSite Senior Member
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    Great reply!

    Only one question - whats EPDM?
     
  7. tadpole

    tadpole LawnSite Bronze Member
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    EPDM liner. What have you used in your previous Water Features?
     
  8. Gr8WhiteNorth

    Gr8WhiteNorth LawnSite Senior Member
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    We typically use rubber liners. I've done concrete only twice.
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  9. tadpole

    tadpole LawnSite Bronze Member
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    You have probably been using EPDM. It is a synthetic rubber that is used for roofing applications and also specially formulated to be 'Fish Safe' for use in ponds. Firestone is the primary manufacturer.
     
  10. Gr8WhiteNorth

    Gr8WhiteNorth LawnSite Senior Member
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    Yeah, thats the stuff.

    So is it advisable to create the drainage towards the pool with mortar, then install the liner over that?
     

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