Preparing a bid--question

Discussion in 'Starting a Lawn Care Business' started by chevyman1, Feb 13, 2004.

  1. chevyman1

    chevyman1 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Please let me know how this sounds....


    I stopped by a local horse farm near my home last night after work to introduce myself to the new owners....I asked them if anyone was mowing the grounds for them (they have a harness track, stables, and a house lawn). They said they had someone in mind referred to them by the previous owners, but said I was welcome to bid and they'd rather go with me since I was local and could provide them personal service if the price was right (I live 1 mile from there, the other LCO is about 15 miles away)

    Here's the specs

    14 acres of land
    1 house, 2 barns
    1 harness track
    1 large fence surrounding the track (white split rail)


    I was thinking it would take 3 hrs of mowing for 2 people with my 48" Ferris walk behind and 52" 1000IS Ferris, plus 1 hr for 2 guys to weedeat (especially because of the fence)

    I was thinking of bidding $300/per cut. How's that sound?
     
  2. 65hoss

    65hoss LawnSite Fanatic
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    So how much of the 14 acres is actually turf? You do realize that 14 acres is 609,840 sf???
     
  3. J Hisch

    J Hisch LawnSite Senior Member
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    you can cut only about 1.8 acres per hr with that walk behind. Not familiar with the Ferris? at best would be around 2.8 acres per hr.

    300 per cut is less than 30.00 per acre? way to cheap. I also think it is going to take longer that 3 hrs. but if you feel you can do it then do it, but i wouldnt if it were me. at best i would at 45 per acre and that if it was easy to cut.
     
  4. chevyman1

    chevyman1 LawnSite Senior Member
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    About 10 acres is actually grass....The 52 Inch rider can do 3.2 acres/hr and the 48" walk behind can do abour 2.2 in ideal conditions
     
  5. 65hoss

    65hoss LawnSite Fanatic
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    Want to bet?
    1. The rider might get you close to that --- in ideal conditions, but you want see that all the time. You do have cut in and obsticles that slow you down.
    2. A 48" w/b with sulky will NOT get 2.2 acres in an hour in PERFECT conditions.
     
  6. chevyman1

    chevyman1 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Worst case scenerio on this places since it's wide open and flat except the fence area, the house/barns, and a couple trees, I will do about 2.8-3.0 with the 1000Z and about 1.75-2.00 with the walk behind and sulky

    Perhaps you should refer to this chart sir, very helpful

    http://www.ferrisindustries.com/m_productivity.php
     
  7. 65hoss

    65hoss LawnSite Fanatic
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    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


    Sorry, very funny you want to show me a chart to help me out. Actually eXmark has had that chart for YEARS. Real world and those charts are 2 different beasts.

    I have real world data on that. Do you? I have actually real life open production times on that equipment. See I own 36", 48" and 52" mowers. Those times are not real life. They are straight line numbers. No turns or corrections.
     
  8. chevyman1

    chevyman1 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I am very aware of those number being "straight line" sir...I was trying to account for the turns and slow downs...if the Walk behind w/ sulky AND 1000ISZ do 3.5 acres per hr COMBINED, 2 people can mow it all in 3+ hrs, weedeat with two trimmer in 1 hr, and be gone in around 4. Just wanted to make sure you'd seen such a chart, Ferris is the class of the stats I feel. Thanks, wasn't trying to be funny with the chart, just helpful. I thought that's what the purpose of this site was, to provide data and information between professionals. sorry for the misunderstanding, and thanks for the information...do you think I'm charging a good rate?
     
  9. 65hoss

    65hoss LawnSite Fanatic
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    No I think you are underbidding.
     
  10. dishboy

    dishboy LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Originally posted by 65 Hoss



    "I have real world data on that. Do you? I have actually real life open production times on that equipment. See I own 36", 48" and 52" mowers. Those times are not real life. They are straight line numbers. No turns or corrections."

    65hoss, I would be real interested in real world numbers from these mowers on mowing time [bagging] on a average flat 1acre lot with a large house and drive. If you have these times and are willing to share them I would be indebted to you and most appreciative.
    Thanks Tom.
     

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