Im going to give a call over to his firm today and see if they have a copy/ will mail me one. Ill post an update with results. Piney, I feel the same way at times. Ive been in the industry for a while now, but new on my own. Pricing is something I certainly need to work on. Im hoping that having a set system in place will allow me to define a price quickly, and stick to that price as I can rationalize how I arrived at the figure. Ive been toying around with excel for about a month here and there, Im trying to develop a pricing model for snow plowing. IE you enter sq footage (I know the debate on this) and other info and it will produce a seasonal price and break down expected expenses based on certain assumptions. Still in the works though.