problem with Z matting grass down and not getting cut

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by precisongreen32, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. precisongreen32

    precisongreen32 LawnSite Member
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    I was just wondering if any 1 has ever ran into this problem? I have a small 48" 2000 scag super z and the front tires seem to run over the grass smash it down and when the deck goes over the grass it dont cut it cuz it is flattened to the ground, the lift of the blades dont suck it back up cut it. Any helpfull thoughts on how to avoid this would be a big help.
     
  2. Runner

    Runner LawnSite Fanatic
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    Is it a trugreen lawn?
     
  3. par69

    par69 LawnSite Member
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    Yes I had that problem with my Fasttrack.

    I bought a John Deere that cuts better. I have not had a real test with wet grass. I hope it works better than my Fasttrack.
     
  4. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
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    Well the first thing I have to ask is....

    Did this just crop up?
    Is it happening on just one lawn?

    The reason is, USUALLY this is an issue that comes along with changing conditions.

    Rain, cloudy weather, shady areas, cooling temperatures, higher growth, heavy succulant growth....

    I have found that the best thing you can do for severe cases is "back-cut"...

    What I mean by that is drive in the exact same tracks as last time, but cutting in the opposite direction of travel.

    This way, the smashed down grass is leaning towards you as you are cutting instead of away. The deck will pull it back upright and cut it off. Then repeat the same pattern again a second week, or cross-cut it and you're looking good.
     
  5. Scotts' Yard Care

    Scotts' Yard Care LawnSite Senior Member
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    Overgrowth every time, at least in our area. Some of our customers think they're growing a hay crop instead of a lawn. Proper watering and fertilizing will cure this but try telling Mr. Nitrogen Boy with his automatic sprinkler that! We see other companies with the same problem; ruts in the turf and other tell tale signs so we're not alone. We routinely have a few lawns that are 6-7 inches tall and dripping wet because the sprinkler just went off a few minutes before we come to mow.
     
  6. DuraCutter

    DuraCutter LawnSite Senior Member
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    Well, no one has mentioned a front mount mower, like the John Deere F1145.
    72" deck that sits ahead of the front wheels.

    We also use the Stiga mower. Not a commercial mower, but the deck sits ahead of the wheels. Eliminates that problem and is so much sweeter to cut with. :)
     
  7. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
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    Those are cool... like a one-off of the Swedish Rider.

    I wouldn't mind having the 4wd model at all.

    Boy I'd like to see one of those in a 60 in (152.4 cm) or larger.
    AND with a tractor frame about that wide tire-to-tire also...
     
  8. DuraCutter

    DuraCutter LawnSite Senior Member
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    Yeah, the 4x4 would be really nice as traction can be a problem when turning tight even on dry grass. Pricey though. We have 7 of those little buggers, and one of them is a parts gopher cause they're not commercially tough so, and also it's expensive to buy even belts... like $300 or more. :dizzy:

    lol, I've had to weld, hammer, apply wood dowlings to the mower deck to keep it going... it works though when you Tim tool it...:)

    I would love a larger one with power steering also as they are a challenge to turn. Provides a good upper body work out.

    My best mower by far with the JD F1145 close behind.
     
  9. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
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    Otherwise though... how does the Combi deck perform at cutting and mulching?
     
  10. DuraCutter

    DuraCutter LawnSite Senior Member
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    It's not a bad cut, not great, but ok. All it does is mulch, there is no way of bagging with the Stiga. Btw, it is made in europe and doesn't seem to sell well here in North America. No dealers left around here.
     

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