Q4 Plus.............have you noticed?

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  1. ron mexico75

    ron mexico75 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    So I have lables saved to an app in my iPhone so they are always with me. I was looking at the label I saved to it last summer for Q4 plus. The reseeding timeframe is 4 weeks. That's what its always been as far as I know. That's been one of the drawbacks for me personally.

    Anyways, I was on the PBI Gordon website and was looking at the label. I think I was doing that because it's easier to read than doing it on my phone. I was looking at reseeding timeframes and it says ONE (1) week! I thought to myself, what in the world is up with that? So, I called PBI Gordon and the guy confirmed that in fact it is 1 week. I said I wanted to know why it's always been 4 and now it says 1. He said he would contact the research and development department and call me back.

    Do you think this is true or did somone make a mistake? None of the AI's have changed......just wondering if anyone else noticed this or just me?
     
  2. ron mexico75

    ron mexico75 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    oh yeah.....just got the call back and the research and development team stated that the 1 week wait time before re-seeding is in fact correct.

    I think this is great news. Especially for any of us who get calls from people late in the aerating/overseeding season who want their lawn to look like their neighbors but have waited until early October to call anyone. Waiting one week instead of 4 is huge in my opinion.

    I just happened to stumble across this. Guess it pays to ALWAYS read the labels no matter how much of a smart a$$ you think you are.

    Guess any guys that have q4 leftovers that don't read this thread will never know. Not sure how you would find this out unless you bough it new and read the label rather than assuming its the "same as usual."
     
  3. grassmasterswilson

    grassmasterswilson LawnSite Platinum Member
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    That is great. I've always used speedzone for my pre seeding app. It cleaned up the broadleaf weeds but I had to hope for cool temps to kill off crabgrass. The wait time is 7 days for that.

    Now if the q4 label is correct we can schedule a full spray a week prior to seeding and expect a clean lawn to reseed. Think that will help keep the fall lawn clean a lot better than basic 3-way.

    I'm gonna surely keep an eye on this.
     
  4. ron mexico75

    ron mexico75 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Yeah I know, it's really great. Go to the PBI Gordon site and you can see it if you click on the Q4 label. Look under re-seeding.

    I called to verify because I thought someone updated the label and mistyped. I just could not get a clear explanation as to why it's been four weeks for at least a couple years now right? now all of a sudden it's one week. Oh well at any rate they confirmed that and I think it's great. surprised more people haven't replied.
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  5. ron mexico75

    ron mexico75 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    anyone else? or we don't have many Q4 users on here?
     
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  7. ron mexico75

    ron mexico75 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Yeah you're right. I'm just wondering why the product has been out for a few years and all of a sudden it goes from 4 weeks to 1 week?
     
  8. grassmasterswilson

    grassmasterswilson LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Wanted to revisit this since our seeding time is coming up. I normally use speedzone to clean up lawns and hope cooler weather will control crabgrass. Speedzone is a 1 week wait.

    But the pbi website says q4plus can be seeded after 1 week. But the nufarm website says quincept put needs a 4 week wait period.

    So is the q4 plus label very current and the quencept very old and not updated?

    What's the consensus on this? Could you use either product, wait a week and seed without affecting germination?
     
  9. ron mexico75

    ron mexico75 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I think the consensus is it is a one-week wait. I called PBI Gordon for a definitive answer. He called over to the research and development department and they said yes one week is correct.
     
  10. grassmasterswilson

    grassmasterswilson LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Great. I may go with Quincept since I will not need the sedge control of q4. Will be nice to get a clean lawn before seeding.
     

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