After being on here several years I've noticed that some area's of the country just have better turf overall. I would think mostly urban area's. This no doubt explains why some may like a certain ZTR and others may hate the same design. If a lawn here has good turf it seems like most any brand of mower will do an adequate job. It's on the lawns that have a mix that seem to give the most problem. I have to admit that most of my lawns out here in the country typically have a mix of the original grass that was planted and other grasses and weeds that eventually invade. And homeowners do not invest a lot of money into the upkeep of lawns. So how many of you actually mow pure turf grass most of the time? No doubt the better income neighborhoods will have a better quality of turf most of the time.