Question about bidding in square feet...

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by LawnGuy73, Nov 27, 2006.

  1. LawnGuy73

    LawnGuy73 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I was talking to another guy in lawn care today and we got to talking about bidding. He does all chemical apps for a company and they always bid per square foot, so I got to wondering. Does anyone bid this way for lawn care services? If so just wondering how much you are charging per square foot and how you like it. If anyone does this please let me know as it seems like an interesting way to bid, I know that alot of companies do it for fertilizing and snow removal but not much talk of it being used in lawn care. Thanks in advance.
     
  2. MJLsLawnCareNmoreLLC

    MJLsLawnCareNmoreLLC LawnSite Senior Member
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    Doesnt work for lawn care. Too many other factors. You either charge too much or too little.
     
  3. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
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    I hope the below information clearly illustrates the problem I have with the /sq.foot formula.

    1 acre = 43,560 square feet

    1/4 acre lot: Min. $30.00 ($120 / acre)
    3/8 acre lot: Min. $35.00 {($93 + 1/3) / acre}
    1/2 acre lot: Min. $40.00 ($80 / acre)
    5/8 acre lot: Min. $45.00 ($72 / acre)
    3/4 acre lot: Min. $50.00 ($75 / acre)
    7/8 acre lot: Min. $55.00 ($62.8571428571...infinite decimal... / acre)
    One acre lot: Min. $60 /
    1.25 acres = $65 ($52 / acre)

    1.5 acres = $75 (11/100 cents / sq.foot) (LOL)

    2 acres = $90 ($45.00 / acre)
    2.5 acres = $110
    3 acres = $130 ($43.33 / acre)
    4 acres = $150 ($37.50 / acre)
    5 acres = $170 ($34.00 / acre)
    6 acres = $190 ($31.66 / acre)
    7 acres = $210 ($30.00 / acre)
    8 acres = $225 ($28.12 / acre)
    9 acres = $240 ($26.66 / acre)
    10 acres = $255 ($25.50 / acre)

    You're better off giving them the total, even the / acre price tends to confuse people, just give them the total.

    Thou if someone can come up with a calculator that adjusts for this, that would be neat.
     
  4. Fantasy Lawns

    Fantasy Lawns LawnSite Bronze Member
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    It's a method which is best developed "in house" .... gotta have apples to apples ya know ....ie belt drive vs hydro .... 36 -48-54-60" deck or what ever ya have ....ie a real dedicated edger vs a whip .... back pack blower vs a hand held .... on n on

    Using your own equip at a normal pace ...cut the turf n time ....again fore weed eating & edging (if you do it) n blowing

    Factors will change ....ie a property with more obstacle's, gates n such .... but one can get a very good idea of the time vs sq. ft .... in fact this is a great ....."dip stick" in checking your time usage vs rate charged

    I have my guys time them selves 6-4 times yearly on certain jobs which I crunch back thru against all my cost n checking my "hourly rate"
     
  5. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 14,700

    I use a system similar to your's topsites except my base prices are lower and I measure the trimming. I charge $1.00 for every hundred feet I have to walk with the trimmer including the walk from the truck to the lawn and back. When I get to a job to price I do imagine how I might walk it to trim and then I get my wheel out and go to town.
     
  6. Flex-Deck

    Flex-Deck LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,846

    I keep it pretty simple. $45 minimum up to 1 acre, and $25/ acre after that. Very complicated properties may be higher. Fert. and Spray = 2.5 times mowing bid, and aeration = 3 times mowing bid. thanks brad
     

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