Questions about adding spraying & fertilizing service to my lawn mowing business - MN

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by Premium Properties Lawns, Mar 7, 2010.

  1. Premium Properties Lawns

    Premium Properties Lawns LawnSite Member
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    I sent out a customer survey last fall to my 50+ lawn mowing customers (1/3 acre on average). About 40 of them requested that I add on a spraying & fertilizing service to their properties. I am taking the pesticide applicators test next week. I am also looking into registering for fertilizing application in MN. I am considering purchasing one of two herbicide sprayers:

    The prolawn spray shield ESC 52 $1300
    http://www.prolawnsprayshields.com/product/esc52_2.html

    OR

    The rittenhouse earthway S25 $450
    http://www.rittenhouse.ca/asp/product.asp?PG=2280

    The first one has a shielded spray system, the other does not.

    I also will need to buy a granular fertilizer/pre emergent spreader and am considering buying this model:

    http://earthway.com/product/commercial-1/


    I plan on offering my customers a pre emergent granular herbicide application (with nitrogen based fertilizer) 'weed n feed' type of product in early/ mid may. I also plan on offering a Trimec type spray application later in may and early to mid june. Then a Trimec or 2,4-D spray application in the mid fall. The main weed problems in my customers lawns are: dandilion, creeping charlie, clover, broadleaf plantain, and yellow nutsedge.

    I am asking for other professionals advice in the MN/ MIDWEST region, to see if there is anything I am missing regarding application times? Or do I have a good base idea for starting a spray/fertilize operation within my lawn mowing business?

    Let me know, I'd be glad to hear from you!

    :waving:

    Thanks!
    Mike
     
  2. SeedPro

    SeedPro LawnSite Bronze Member
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    The only thing I would check is if you can even apply legally.

    Check with the ag department to see if you need verifiable experience to apply pesticides and a business license. Here in Michigan you need two years verifiable experience before you can get a business license. Thats NOT an applicators license.

    Anyone can get those by paying 75 bucks and passing the quiz.


    All states are different though.
     
  3. jasontimm

    jasontimm LawnSite Senior Member
    from MN
    Posts: 362

    All you need in MN is your cat A&E as you know considering your taking the test soon, i would check your spray program though, if you have clover issues, 2,4-d will kill it but might take a while, momentum FX2 will kill it in a day, go to your nearest John Deere Landscapes store (lesco) and speak with them, they will set you up with the right program, and give you diffrent options. Speaking with the JDL rep is how i learned what and when to apply. you can also go to Johndeerelandscapes.com and it will give you the nearest dealer. Good luck...i think it will be a good choice to expand to chem. work....it was for me. As far as application equipment...most of the boys here use either a ride-on spreader sprayer, or a skid sprayer and a push spreader, you can buy used reasonably priced, thats what i did.
     
  4. djagusch

    djagusch LawnSite Platinum Member
    from MN
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    Your on the right track. I question the equipment a bit but you need to start somewhere. There is some used permagreens on craigslist for cheap in St Cloud.

    Guys in my area use the 19-0-6 .10 dimension when ground temps get right then 3 more rounds of fert. Momentum FX early June spot when needed after that. The one last spray when the first hard frost comes (this will get the creeping charlie gone and spring will not have many weeds).

    Stop by a lesco and get more of your local info also.
     
  5. Premium Properties Lawns

    Premium Properties Lawns LawnSite Member
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    Thanks for the advice! i'll check out the John Deere Landscapes website, keep the advice coming, I appreciate it!
     
  6. FertNSquirt

    FertNSquirt LawnSite Member
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    I have a Permagreen for sale in Indiana if you would consider a drive.
     
  7. Premium Properties Lawns

    Premium Properties Lawns LawnSite Member
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    How much for the permagreen, and what condition? I haven't researched the permagreens yet, what do i need to know about them? Is calibration difficult?
     
  8. jasontimm

    jasontimm LawnSite Senior Member
    from MN
    Posts: 362

    I see there is one for sale in Plymouth, Mn for $2400.00 dollars, might be worth your time to look at it, there is a loot of info on PG's on this site, just type it in on the search screen and read away.
     
  9. Young Bros

    Young Bros LawnSite Senior Member
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  10. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
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    Rd 1 you are putting pre down, so you ARE doing something for weeds. Pre's control more than just crab. It seems to me a waste of time trying to hunt down broadleafs in April when germination really has not occurred yet - soil temps too low. I don't apply selectives until May with my 2nd Rd, to knock out that first good round of germinating broadleafs. Then spot during the summer and possibly blanket again late Aug after the late surge.
     

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