questions from Teaming with Microbes book

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  1. lawncuttinfoo

    lawncuttinfoo LawnSite Bronze Member
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    (3rd printing)
    On page 155 they suggest mixing grass seed with "vesicular-arbuscular mycorrhizae (VAM)" for food web benefits. However they do not explain exactly what form this is sold in, how to acquire it and so on.
    Does anyone know?

    On page 153 they discuss purchasing an inexpensive chlorine filter and install it on the outside hose bib.
    Does anyone have any examples of this?

    Also on page 153 they refer to corn gluten's "10-10-10 formula" this is a typo, correct?
  2. Organic a go go

    Organic a go go LawnSite Member
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    Don't know if this is what they're referring to specifically but:
  3. Barefoot James

    Barefoot James LawnSite Senior Member
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    See above link and here is the product. it is in powder form and can be sprayed directlyon the seed.

    MycoApply® Ultrafine Endo micronized mycorrhizal
    powder inoculum consists of a blend of spores of 4
    endomycorrhizal fungi species. The powder comes in a particle size less than 220 microns (#70
    screen). This concentrated, fine material is ideal for “water in” or “spray” applications. About 90%
    of the world’s plant species form symbiotic relationships with these beneficial endomycorrhizal fungi.
    They colonize plant roots, expand into the surrounding soil and greatly increase the root's ability to
    absorb water and nutrients, while improving plant yields and health.
    Directions Benefits
    Drought stress
    Water and fertilizer needs
    Transplant shock
    Flowering and fruiting
    Water and nutrient storage
    and uptake
    Root growth
    Extensive root system
    Soil structure
    Plant establishment
    The goal is to place the spores in close contact to the roots.
    (1) Watering in : (Porous soil only)- Mix into water at minimum rate of 1.5 tablespoons
    per gallon ( No harm in using stronger ratios if desired-- especially for problem
    plants). Mix well and keep agitated. Mist or dip plant root systems during
    transplanting or water in as a soil drench. Will treat 75 one-gallon plants.
    (2) Restoration: Use 7 pounds per acre for broadcast or hydromulch operation before
    or during plantings.
    (3) Nurseries: Inoculum can be mixed in planting soil before/during filling cavities,
    pots, and trays. Use .20 to .60 pounds per cubic yard, depending on cavity size
    (higher rates for smaller cavities).
    (4) Compost Tea: Use 0.7 pounds per 50 gallons of tea, as a soil drench. Apply tea at
    normal rate.
    (5) Transplants: Touch damp roots to the inoculum so a small amount sticks to the
    roots or sprinkle into planting holes. Use 1 gram under each cutting: 1 teaspoon for
    potted transplants; 1 tablespoon per inch of stem caliper plantings.
    Ingredients Specifics
    Endomycorrhizal fungi: Glomus intraradices, G. mosseae, G. aggregatum: G. etunicatum
    130,000 propagules/lb.

    Cost with shipping is about $300 per 20 lbs - expensive but your get results.
    ICT also has myco in it and it works great too!

    I asked them your question too and here is the answer about application.

    Our Endo Plus Product would be a good choice to add to the soil when preparing to plant or to broadcast with seed.
    For established turf though, it would need to be after aerification and/or cutting to allow the granules to get into the soil.
    With any application, you want to get the product in close proximity with the rootzone.

    Our Micronized Endo or Ultrafine Endo can be mixed with your compost tea or mixed with water and applied as a soil drench.
    Another good option would be our Micronized Endo/Ecto which would also help with any trees that are in the landscape as well.

    If you have any more specific questions or if there is anything else I can help you with, feel free to contact me.

    Thanks for your interest in our products.

    Dana Zozaya
    Mycorrhizal Applications, Inc.
    541-476-3985 fax-541-476-1581

    DUSTYCEDAR LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
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  5. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
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    Errrr, relatively cheap to purchase, not so much to maintain.

    If you need to filter, why not buy a cheap bucket and some GAC (granular activated carbon)? Drill some holes in the bottom of the bucket, put a screen in the bottom to keep the carbon in, then fill your CT container by running water through your "carbon filter". :)
  6. phasthound

    phasthound LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,584

    Some inexpensive ways to remove chlorine is to aerate the water for 1/2 hour before adding ingredients for brewing, or fill the tank & let it sit over night without a lid on it, or add humates before brewing.
  7. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
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    chlorine is a problem that can be solved with a out gassing column, the real issue will be heavy metal such as fluoride.

    the best way to remove large amounts of pollution is a water softener, ion exchange is a great tool. the carbon will work slowly in a bucket, try a whole house filter from a home imp. store. or reclaim rain water/ pond water,
  8. lawncuttinfoo

    lawncuttinfoo LawnSite Bronze Member
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    double post
  9. lawncuttinfoo

    lawncuttinfoo LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Oh sorry about not clarifying for those who have not read/did not refer back to the book. When they are talking about the filter they are talking about wattering your lawn, so I'm refering to something that is installed on the faucet. I'm not talking about small ammounts for CT, I have a plan for that already.
  10. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 18,308

    Then you will need one whopping big filter depending on your flow requirements.

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