I really like this site for the wealth of information in it. One just has to identify the brand loyal owners. Let's be honest, there are several brands out there that do a very good job. Don't be blinded by your bias just because your brand X is out in your shop, that doesn't mean it's the greatest thing going. Sort of reminds me of the green machines in the tractor market also. I have a Mahindra tractor and while their prices have climbed in the few short years since I purchased one, I still knew they offered more bang for the buck then paying a premium for just a name. I feel the badboys are about the same right now in the ztr world. I am not naive enough to think there are no others that are better, I am sure there is. I certainly can't find another mower that offers the same bang for the same buck though. In the end, all I am saying is don't get bent out of shape because not everyone feels the same way about your favorite brand. There are many manufactures that build good products, not just the one you or I ride.