Rates, rates, rates. I know... it's been done before...

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by A1 Grass, Jul 21, 2003.

  1. A1 Grass

    A1 Grass LawnSite Senior Member
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    I am in San Antonio, Texas. I know that this town is notorious for LOW wages but I need some confidence boosting from people who know!

    I do not discuss hourly rates with customers, just the flat bid. I have gotten looks of utter astonishment from people when I quote a price for some work. Take a look at my rates and tell me if they don't sound REALLY LOW as it is... please...

    Mowing - .75min (32"Scag)
    Other yardwork - $30pmh
    Fertilizing - same as Mow + fertilizer + pickup
    Mulch spreading - $5bag + mulch + pickup
    Trimming bushes - $5/$10/$15/$20/etc each
    Hauling - $50 truckload (not incl load time)
    Pickup/Del (local) - $20 under 300# / $30+ over 300#

    I gave a price of $30 on a 15x3x3 holly hedge. That's LOW, isn't it? I wish I had a pic...

    Whad'ya think? Please tell me your rates so I can compare.

    A thou$and thanks!
  2. A1 Grass

    A1 Grass LawnSite Senior Member
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    I pushed this thread back up once more in the hopes of some feedback. Here's why:

    I am new at this game and want to be realistic in my bidding. I need some comparisons. I do NOT want to be the cheapest around, OR the most expensive.

    I understand if people may not want to discuss their personal rates out in the open, so feel free to private message me.

  3. tiedeman

    tiedeman LawnSite Fanatic
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    trimming bushes I would have at an hourly rate. I feel your lawn care rate should be $1.00 per min. $30 per man per hour sounds good to me. Because think about $1.00 per min, is $60 for an hour. So 2 guys working is $60 per hour.
  4. GLAN

    GLAN Banned
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    rates is determined by location and what the area sustains.

    Many factors need to be considered.

    Living expenses for the area.
    Average income for the area
    Cost of housing and so on.

    Your business overhead

    I am not the cheapest out there. Can't be, would not survive. I am not over priced either. For I would not acquire new accounts.

    I do however cater to a particular group. We only provide full service. Shrub trimming for this year 95%. Less than 2% of all the accounts are the basic weekly with spring and fall cleanup. If I can't get them to go for lawn apps. next year. Bye, bye.

    Weekly maintenance no less than $2.50 a minute
    Any other work minimum $40 and up per man hour. Not all the men are at equal pay. Not all work is the same.
  5. tiedeman

    tiedeman LawnSite Fanatic
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    very true Glan
  6. dvmcmrhp52

    dvmcmrhp52 LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Pa.
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    $2.50 per minute for weekly maintenance?? Ya right,
    and the cow jumped over the moon with the fork and the spoon.
  7. A1 Grass

    A1 Grass LawnSite Senior Member
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    $2.50 a minute?? Wow. I guess if you can do a $35 yard in 14 minutes, I'm REALLY IMPRESSED! Leaves me a little room for improvement.

    I'll hafta bust out on the WHEATIES!
  8. bobbygedd

    bobbygedd LawnSite Fanatic
    from NJ
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    u cant charge hourly for mowing, u will get smoked. what if the lawn is tiny, 2k, u r in and out in 10 min, are u gonna charge $7.50? i always quote prices, not hourly rates for mowing, and hope it works out to at least our hourly rate, now with mowing, u can always get more economical because as time goes on, and u become used to the property, where every little bump is, etc, u can get it done faster, but not with trimming, leaves, etc. we charge hrly for that.
  9. GLAN

    GLAN Banned
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    suprised noone noticed me saying this before. A crew does 5 - 6 residential in an hour. For some of you that would be the "postage stamp" type of property.

    We have many properties that are in the area of 60' x 100' where I am. Yes there are some smaller and yes, there are larger. We do commercial of 1 - 3 acres and estates in the 3 acre range.

    The minimum we charge is $25 weekly.

    25x6=150 / 60 minutes = 2.5 a minute
  10. GLAN

    GLAN Banned
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    Exactly, thanks bobby.

    But as for trimming and leaves. If I charged hourly I would be charging less than I do now

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