red dye fuel use in skid steer

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by Cobra93CPR, Aug 2, 2004.

  1. Cobra93CPR

    Cobra93CPR LawnSite Member
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    Im in MN and just starting skid steer service. I just hear red dye diesel is allowed in skid steer if you are a business. Is this true?

    Thank you
     
  2. Avery

    Avery LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Yep. Dyed fuel is for off road use such as const. and farm equipment.
     
  3. chuckers

    chuckers LawnSite Senior Member
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    red fuel is just a non-taxed fuel you can run it in anything except for highway use (public road) .....
     
  4. Mdirrigation

    Mdirrigation LawnSite Silver Member
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    But there can be 2 types of dyed fuel, one is high sulfur commonly sold as heating oil and the other is dyed diesel which is low sulfur , and the same as regular diesel . I ran a oil truck over the winter , when the line was long to fill up with heating oil we spent 2 cents more a gallon and got dyed diesel rather than wait 2 hours
     
  5. coopers

    coopers LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Yeah, just make sure it DOES NOT get into anything other than 'off road...' we had a rep. from the IRS or whatever checkin' our stuff out....

    Blake
    WA
     
  6. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
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    I've heard this and wonder if it's true, but does road diesel have lower sulfur than off road? Heard about a guy around here that had a diesel truck that he was using for farm use, just off road and said that it ran better with off road diesel in it because it had a higher sulfur content. Needless to say I don't run road diesel in our skid steer.
     
  7. Avery

    Avery LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Yep. Off road has more sulfur.
     
  8. bigz1001

    bigz1001 LawnSite Member
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    We use 12,000 gallons of off-road diesel fuel per 24 hour period, and none of it is high sulfur. It is regular diesel with a dye in it, it's not a cheaper quality product, the price diffrence is in the taxes that apply to it. We run it in Loaders, Dozers, Rock Trucks, Excavators, Buses, and pickups with no problems.
     
  9. D Felix

    D Felix LawnSite Bronze Member
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    One thing to watch out for is switching back and forth between the high and low sulfur fuels.

    I don't know how much it affects equipment like skidsteers and tractors, but my father used to run off-road fuel in his 1-ton truck. Occasionally he would get a tank or two from the gas station. He found out the hard way that doing that can cause problems with the diaphram in the fuel pump. He's got an '89 Dodge with a Cummins, so the newer diesels may not be affected as badly.

    My advice would be to get a tank from your local co-op and have them fill it with off-road fuel. Chances are the fuel will be consistant with every load....

    I've known other fuel delievery companies to buy whichever is cheapest, either the low or high sulfur and dye it red when needed..... You don't mind the cheaper part until something goes wrong..............


    Dan
     
  10. Grassmechanic

    Grassmechanic LawnSite Silver Member
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    Low sulfur, high sulfur, it won't matter. The EPA is cracking down on diesel emissions. It will ALL be low sulfur in the near future.
     

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