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Removing Sod For Renovation

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by RobD70, Jun 10, 2014.

  1. RobD70

    RobD70 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 21

    I have been taking care of our softball diamonds for about 5 years now, always having to borrow equipment. This spring I went out and got my own equipment, a Kubota L3800 tractor, Land Pride power rake, Land Pride tiller, Land PRide 3 point seeder and box scraper. I am doing some landscapre work on the side to help pay for it. I have to give a quote to a guy who wants his established lawn out, leveled and re-seeded. I am looking at about 1 3/4 acre, so it is a big area. I have done some smaller size areas and used the power rake to tear up the sod and level the area. The sod is a real pain to have to rake up and take off. What is the best way to go about getting rid of the sod? I was told to spray it all with roundup and let it sit for 2-3 weeks to make sure the grass is killed all the way through the roots and this would help the sod break up better. Is this correct? I had a spot in my back yard I wanted to level , so I sprayed it the other day and will leave it go for 2-3 weeks and see how it goes. I know I will have to take some sod off anyhow, but if it breaks up so Im not taking ogg big clumps and so much dirt to, that would be a big help. I can wind row it with the power rake, then pick it up. Any ideas will be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Rob
     
  2. Snyder's Lawn Inc

    Snyder's Lawn Inc LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,541

    Best take a mower and scalp it
    Rear tine tiller run over it and over it Then wait 3-4 days and then till it again

    Not sure about your tiller mine I can change the gear box and I can make mine run like a 1,000 pto very high speed

    I do it all the time this way for years
     
  3. Snyder's Lawn Inc

    Snyder's Lawn Inc LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,541

    That rake wont do what a tiller can do I wouldnt use the rake till you used the tiller few passes first
    I know some people loves them rakes but I care less to own one
    to me they are worthless
     
  4. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,749

    Rakes are worthless to those who can rake ;) i would scalp, kill, till and rake.
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  5. recycledsole

    recycledsole LawnSite Gold Member
    from MD
    Posts: 3,231

    I wont recommend using herbicides. You would have to rent a sod stripper gas powered, or even better a larger bobcat / mini skid steer that can dig off the top layer about 3 inches. For an area that large I might charge $.75/ sq ft, or possibly $50 including haul away price which is very expensive if you have to dump it somewhere and pay for it. Then roll the lawn with a lawn roller, adding topsoil / compost where needed to level it out. Then overseed obviously.
    Alternately you may be able to skip the step of removing all the old turf, and just fill in the low spots and use the lawn roller on those specific spots. Then overseed. That is a huge job. Good luck
     
  6. Snyder's Lawn Inc

    Snyder's Lawn Inc LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,541

    Using a Skid or mini to cut sod off would be long way doing this
    Might be a huge job to a person that doesn't have right equipment do the job
    Hate tell you that's a med size job

    The OP does have all the right equipment
     
  7. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    How many sf is 1 3/4 acre? That would be a massive haul off
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  8. KrayzKajun

    KrayzKajun LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 10,742

    Roughly 76k sqft. That's a lot of old turf to dispose of.

    To OP. has a soil test been done to reveal the reason wht the current turf is not thriving?
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  9. RobD70

    RobD70 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 21

    I think if I accept this job, I will end up spraying the entire lawn and leave it 2-3 weeks then power rake it. I know I will have sod to take off but am told it should break up better and be more manageable.

    The owner wants it all redone because the part around his house that was actually seeded was a half-ass done job by the contractor who built the house and is rough/bumpy when he mows it. I suggested getting it rolled to see if that helps first but he dont want that, he just wants it all redone. The back pack was leveled and dont think it was seeded, looks to be weeds that they just kept mowed. By looking at his house and the sub division he lives in, i dont think cost is an issue. If I choose to do it, I need to figure out what to charge. I may be on my own for a share of it. My son will help for some. I was also told it had a fair amount of rocks in that soil.
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  10. recycledsole

    recycledsole LawnSite Gold Member
    from MD
    Posts: 3,231

    kajun has a good point. soil tests cost $10-$25. charge them $60 and do it. Find a lab that can email you results within a few days.
    Just remember dirt weighs around 1 TON (2000LB) per cubic yard. If you have to pay to dump this could be a LOT of money just for that alone. It sounds like this guy may think that youre a small part time contractor and thinks you'll be able to do it for dirt cheap.
    I wonder if by tilling the yard 2 or 3 passes you can get the grass ground up enough to be smooth when adding topsoil that will prevent you from having to take anything away.
     

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