retaining wall production rates?

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by alldayrj, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    looking at a 140' by 4.5' high wall (1 course buried), no turns or curves, Allen Block AB hollow core filled with drain rock, no caps, engineered with 3 layers of grid, and a hard pipe drain system exiting the face of the wall every 10', 1' clean stone backfill, no filter fabric (all this is the engineers, not mine). nothing there now, it will be the side of a new parking lot (lot is set back 5' from top of the wall) so excavated dirt can just be dumped to the side and dealt with later, great access from the street for machines and trucks.

    I know all my material costs, looking for some production rates or a ball park of how long it would take your similar small crew(3/4 guys, skid and excavator on site) to accomplish this so I can get a real price together. number of days, number of hours, feet per hour, however you want to slice it would be great. its triple my biggest wall(length wise) so i want to make sure i'm scaling it up accurately. If i can get a few responses I'll post up my assumed breakdown, just dont want to influence anyones thoughts yet

    thanks guys, have a good weekend
     
  2. scagrider22

    scagrider22 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Depending on the site conditions anywhere from 3-5 days, if its a new construction commercial job without lawn repairs 3 of us could easily do it in 3 days, if it's residential and has lawn repairs more like 5 days.

    If it is commercial with easy access and no lawn repairs I would charge around 15k if the 4.5' includes the buried row, (I pay about $5.00 a block, not sure what you pay). Also weep holes every 10' is very excessive. And make sure you spell Allan Block correctly on your estimate!
     
  3. MJK

    MJK LawnSite Senior Member
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    I have 103 man hours for a project like that.
     
  4. Middle Tennessee Lawn

    Middle Tennessee Lawn LawnSite Member
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    Do not worry so about time price it 14,000 labor
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  5. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    I was planning 5 days so i could really take my time with the base and also the drain system is going to take time cutting and fitting the pvc and notching block for the wall penetrations. I figured 18k but this is NY and the AllAn block are 6.50.

    The 4.5 does include buried course and it is commercial with pretty good access to the back of the wall. The front is the neighbors property but we probably have enough room to drive the skid up with the block
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  6. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    I will be sure to lean on the supplier when it cones time to buying this many block, not a lot of these go up around here and they could drop ship from the manufacturer
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  7. scagrider22

    scagrider22 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I always have commercial walls drop shipped, allan block picked up here is $6.65 depending on how much i have drop shipped i get it anywhere from 4.50 to 5.50 a block.
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  8. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    Thats a grand in my pocket, do i contact allan block directly or still go through the dealer?
     
  9. scagrider22

    scagrider22 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I do both depending on where the job is and how many block, after a certain amount allan block will sell it direct at dealer price. Usually anything over 2500 face feet. Just have a couple dealers price it out for you, mine will only drop ship full semi loads. Your job is about 1 semi so they should be able to get you down around 5.50 if you unload it.
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  10. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    I always buy direct from the manufacturer, for SRW block. Never do I buy through a dealer. But the manufacturers are usually dealers too.

    Not a fan of Allan Block. I'd try to go with another brand such as Cornerstone, much more user friendly.
     

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