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retirement home bid!!

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Lacebark Boy, Jan 28, 2004.

  1. Lacebark Boy

    Lacebark Boy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 27

    I need help on a bid for a retirement home for approx. 190 residents. The only way I can describe it reasonably is to say it has a lot of sidewalks and buildings to trim around. THIS MAY BE THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT: It has taken four guys about four days to do the property in total. Can anyone help?
    Lacebark Boy
  2. lawnman_scott

    lawnman_scott LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 7,547

    no idea, but be sure to get a contract on it. They get paid slow by medicare, so think they should be able to pay their bills 90 days late.
  3. PLI1

    PLI1 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 254

    I maintain a retirement home on 50 acres. There are 300+ residents, and a 150 bed nursing home facility. All I can say is with all the nooks and crannies, bid high. Since all the retirees are home all day inspecting your work, they probably expect precision work. One important word of advice if you get this job, dont only get to know the management, get to know as many of the residents as well. If they like you, they will get attatched to you and management will be less likely to get bids every year and stick solely with you. Getting to know the residents takes time, so figure the chat time into your bid. I've had this account for years and the contract is self renewing with and automatic increase year to year. As far as payment, my monthly invoices state net 30, but I almost always receive payment within 10 days. This could be a good opportunity for you!
  4. LawnPerfect

    LawnPerfect LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 318

    not a bad place to pick up a little help either. gramps gets tired of playing checkers all day so put him to work. if granny can hold on to a walker then she can use a walk behind too.
  5. impactlandscaping

    impactlandscaping LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,332

    Maybe you could get Flex Deck to rig some decks onto granny's Rascal...
    JK>Are you talking 4 eight hour days?
    \4men 8 hrs a day=32 mn hrs.X 4 days=128 mn hrs per cut
    That's a nice little chunk of change each week.I don't know what your overhead an operating costs are, but I would analyze the property very closely and see where some time could be saved, maybe a whole day's worth.Especially figure in overages for high cut fees if you have a period of rain more than a day or so.With a 4 day turn around, you can't really afford delays or too many breakdowns.Bid high and stick with it, and try for an extended contract(at least 2-3yrs) if you have to buy any new equipment for this account if its awarded to you. Like PLI1 said, if you get the bid, it never hurts to have a few allies on board in a large community like that.Good luck<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/28/28_3_2.gif' border=0></a>Is it Spring yet???
  6. Lacebark Boy

    Lacebark Boy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 27

    So, what should the price be per cut?
  7. tiedeman

    tiedeman LawnSite Fanatic
    from earth
    Posts: 8,745

    Lacebark, what kind of equipment and how long in hours did it took the other guys to do it before? Just like impact was asking, were they 4, eight hour days?
  8. Lacebark Boy

    Lacebark Boy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 27

    Yes, it was 8 hour days. therefore the total per cut would be 128 hours. They used walk behinds, ztr's etc. At 50.00 per hour this would be $6400.00 per cut, does this sound right?
  9. Barkleymut

    Barkleymut LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,117

    Have you ever bid a large property before? You need to look at how long it will take YOU. You are not Walmart, you can't afford to match other guys prices. You need to get the price which will turn a healthy profit. Do you currently have 3 employees? This is a huge step if you don't. Be prepared to loose a lot of sleep over this one property. Also set up a solid self renewing contract.
  10. tiedeman

    tiedeman LawnSite Fanatic
    from earth
    Posts: 8,745

    I would try to get the property, but don't put all of your eggs in one property. Also make sure they sign a contract. You would be screwed if they got out of the contract after 30 days. For a project like this, make sure everything is covered in the contract.

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