Ride On Carrier on a Dodge Dakota

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  1. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
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    Guys,

    I am interested in picking up a carrier for my PG for use next season.
    My primary truck is a 2006 Dodge Dakota 4x4.
    Would my truck handle a ride on carrier ok?

    Only other payload would be some bags of fert (less than 10 at a time) and a few 5 gallon jugs of water for refill. No tank, no skid.

    I could always add some leaf springs if need be. I do have the heavy tow package on this vehicle.


    Thx
     
  2. grass4gas

    grass4gas LawnSite Senior Member
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    What size truck? 1/2, 3/4 ton?

    I have a 3/4 ton chevy 2500hd p/u that I use "occasionaly" with the carrier for my p/g and it handles it fine. You would have no problem with this size truck. My main truck is a 3500 chevy flat bed.

    A 1500 1/4 ton p/u will sit to low when loaded with rack and p/g. I would look into airbags instead of leaf springs. The airbags give you flexibility by being able to deflate them for a more comfortable ride when your just riding around in it.

    I had them on my chevy 1500 when I had it. Lifted the back end up plenty for towing a trailer, or the rack and p/g. I had no problems with them for the 5 years I had them on the truck
     
  3. garydale

    garydale LawnSite Senior Member
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    Next time you get to your supplier have them set a pallet or half pallet of fert on the truck. That will show you a lot.
    I started with a 1500 chevy. After one season we went to a 2500 HD. then we put two extra leaf springs on it to get close to what we needed.

    A overloaded truck will be very hard on brakes.
     
  4. Rayholio

    Rayholio LawnSite Bronze Member
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    you will need some additional leafs put in the springs at least. I just sold my '99 dakota this morning.. and it was my 1st app vehicle.

    I put 5000 lb springs on it.. and with a pallet of fert and a push spreader on board it was scary as hell to drive.. nose high, and squirrely... I doubt that you could put any ride-on that far back from the back wheels and expect good results with that vehicle.

    The #1 problem I had was brakes. the brakes were WAAAAAY under sized to be stopping any weight. I would go thru them very quickly. I would suggest that if you have to take a ride on with you, get a small tilt trailer, and have a brake axle put on it, then wire your truck with a trailer brake controller. I pulled mine like that a few times, and it worked out great. well.. as great as could be expected considering those trucks were never meant to do any REAL work.

    also consider a tranny cooler.
     
  5. MarcSmith

    MarcSmith LawnSite Fanatic
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    * Maximum towing capacity: 7000 lbs.
    * Maximum payload: 1720 lbs.

    10 bags of fert= 500lbs
    15 gallons of water = 100lbs(more or less)
    Driver= 200 lbs
    PG= 700 lbs

    so the math says you can do it and not be overloaded
    700lbs of "tongue weight" won't be fun but doable.

    Just remember springs don't increase your max payload they only make you truck squat less
     
  6. rcreech

    rcreech Sponsor
    Male, from OHIO
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    To me....

    We use Chevy 2500's and the truck we have with a rack "squats" really bad and it is a full size pickup.

    I don't see how a Dodge Dakota could even come close to working by the time you put any amount of water and fert on the truck.

    With all that weight no the back of the truck it just naturally makes the truck squat.

    I remember leaving in the morning with 120 gallons of water, 30-40 bags of fert and a PG hanging off the back and thinking....so this is what it feels like to sit in a spaceship!

    The truck didn't steer good either! :)
     
  7. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
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    Good info guys. Now, I won't be carrying more than 15-20 gals of water and 10 bags of fert, besides myself and the PG/rack so maybe that makes a difference?

    If still not, I will just keep loading the PG on a trailer with fert in the truck bed.
    Just looking for something less cumbersome.
     
  8. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
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    Of course you need the maximum size trailer hitch, 500 lbs tongue weight or something like that. Of course you could do what I did from time to time. Carry the fert in the front seat to help balance the load.
     
  9. azjojo99

    azjojo99 LawnSite Member
    from S.C.
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    Maybe put on rack on the front of the truck to carry the fert, that would counter balance the PG hanging off the back!

    I think it would be too much for a Dakota to handle. It makes a 2500 pickup sit down.
     
  10. CHARLES CUE

    CHARLES CUE LawnSite Silver Member
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    I don't think your truck will handle it. Look for a trailer or a bigger truck.

    Just remember that rack hangs off the back 3 ft and it will drag the ground going up a hill off a flat road. The lower the rack is to the ground the more it will drag.

    Charles Cue
     

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