Root Length

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by Smallaxe, Jun 7, 2008.

  1. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
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    tap vs fibrous
     
  2. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
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    ya know, I am going to have to try so real turf, it sounds like it may work, just need to find out what will do great in the heat, without water???
     
  3. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    Dishboy, what kind of soil do you have? Sandy loam? clay loam? Lots of OM? etc.

    Daner is right about the soil in the garden. To grow carrots u want 12" of loose, fertile soil. So a good point about seed beds is: If we start with a compacted area prepared with a skidster we cannot expect initial root growth to be as good as an open airy seedbed with say - a tiller.

    That aside - do the roots actually grow longer after the first year or are they actually getting squished into a flat mat type carpet with ongoing compaction? Does aeration eventually show results?

    TG1 our best grasses are KBG and Fecue. I personally do not like to have Per. Rye in the mix.
    What are the best looking grasses in the South?
     
  4. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
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    its a weed to you,LOL, St Augustine Floratam type 2e
     
  5. DeepGreenLawn

    DeepGreenLawn LawnSite Silver Member
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    I like bermuda and zoysia myself. But then again, I think a lot of it is the area I am in. If I were to grow a St Augustine I would be laughed out of town for growing a lawn full of weeds.
     
  6. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
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    In the harsher heat of the south and near the beach where salt is a concern St Augustine is one tough turf type.
     
  7. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
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    we also use some argentine Bahia, and very little zoysia, its a specialty sod, mostly for sports turf. the heat is unreal,and it never lets up we surf in the winter,dec-mar. plant tomato's at x mas. however we are looking for a way to seed some dirt to become a lawn some day, the only thing is whats a good time?there is very little "cool" weather to start it in. we are looking at possibly growing it in flats to start with, then when it gets going send it out doors. just a thought, sod is so high$$$$.
     
  8. tungsten33

    tungsten33 LawnSite Member
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    St aug Floratam TYPE 2E??? What's type 2e? I know that Floratam has excellent drought tolerance, almost as good as bermuda, better than zoysia grass but I've never heard of anyone saying type 2e.
     
  9. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    Your St. Augustine seems to be similar to our quack grass. It will grow in places where other grasses will not, due to harsh, dry conditions. Never see it spread into the woods though.
    Not a pleasant, or comfortable lawn, from quack grass.
     
  10. DeepGreenLawn

    DeepGreenLawn LawnSite Silver Member
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    Hey small, it is like I was saying, her St. Augustine is the same exact "grass" as our Crabgrass. Shows up unannounced and grows in any bare areas or places you don't want it to.

    It is well known and well hated here.
     

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