ROTARD wants to know:Landscaping VS.Irrigation

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by CAPT Stream Rotar, Apr 29, 2007.

  1. CAPT Stream Rotar

    CAPT Stream Rotar LawnSite Fanatic
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    ok well first off i know what fourm im on...(belive me i know)
    but my landscape Boss(guy who signs the paychecks) and my Irrigation boss (guy with some personal issues) always battle about

    LANDSCRAPING VS. IRRITATION-which is harder to do/bill.

    1boss says irrigation has more to worry about...which i can understand.Turn ons/service work/Troubleshooting, and installs can be tough if the Gerbils( as we like to call new guys) are on the job or not..
    there are pros n cons for both..I really care less.. but i think irrigation has more to worry about..here is why
    1.our pipes are in the ground where we cant see
    2.with the industry changing rapidly its hard to keep up with all the products
    3.we have to tap into the main water supply which involves plumbing
    4.we use electricity, wires and pipe.....all under ground...
    5.customers can see landscaping, but not always understand irrigation
    i have a few more things but thats enough for now..i will spell check my writting..thats if even anyone responds to me..

    :)
     
  2. CAPT Stream Rotar

    CAPT Stream Rotar LawnSite Fanatic
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    ::runs away::
     
  3. sheshovel

    sheshovel LawnSite Fanatic
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    Landscapers have to deal with all you listed above because we install systems too. Plus, drainage, grading, site conditions, soil conditions, sun and shade, plant types + names and knowledge of plant material and planting. Trees, shrubs, perennial plants, herbaceous and woody, lawn installation, sod and seeding
    We have to know materials like stone, boulders, gravel, flagstone and pavers, mulch, planting mixes, soil conditioners ect.
    We have to be able to construct water features, create entire garden spaces that are usable, practical and pleasing to the eye. We have to deal with designing and designers, clients who change their mind 1/2 way through a project or run out of $$ cuz they add on as we go.
    Dry creek beds and pergolas, trellises and the like.
    I could go on and on, but you get the picture. Not saying we are better, but landscapers have a wide variety of concerns that cover a large range of necessary knowledge to be able to perform their work.
     
  4. Mike Leary

    Mike Leary LawnSite Fanatic
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    Nice post She....one thing I noticed over the years was any contractor that
    advertised "we do it all" did irrigation crummy (even had a few admit it!)
    Properly done, irrigation can be a great way to make a living (if you find
    the right market!).
     
  5. sheshovel

    sheshovel LawnSite Fanatic
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    I am sure it is, however I am not looking to change careers at this point thank you.
     
  6. Remote Pigtails

    Remote Pigtails LawnSite Senior Member
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    I prefer irr to lndscpng cuz of the perishable factor of plants. Dallas in my opinion may be the best irrigation market in the country. Year round work, lots of big spenders, hot climate, and lots of houses. If you have a lot of energy and can deal with the constant state of urgency a lot of money can be made here.
     
  7. Remote Pigtails

    Remote Pigtails LawnSite Senior Member
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    OOOPS I just realized this was to educate goofball. Terrible market-stay home-the Kennedys need you in Cape Cod.
     
  8. Mike Leary

    Mike Leary LawnSite Fanatic
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    Downside: if plants die, guess who gets the blame?, not the nursery, not
    the LA, not the installer....YOU irrigation prima donna!:laugh:
     
  9. Remote Pigtails

    Remote Pigtails LawnSite Senior Member
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    Yeah maybe some. Most people realize dallas is one of the toughest gardening climates in the US. Also I'm pretty good at customer education. As you well know Mike cyb is an experience factor. I even tell customers where their dead spots are going to be in the spring during the fall because i locate all the brown patch spots caused by poor drainage and over watering.
     
  10. Mike Leary

    Mike Leary LawnSite Fanatic
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    Good point, education of clients most important....rookie mouthoffs cause
    much damage & I've had to take my pups aside & inform them "I'm the one
    who will put my foot in to this..not you with your percieved three years of
    "journeyperson" experience"!
     

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