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Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by bigtrees, May 19, 2000.

  1. bigtrees

    bigtrees LawnSite Member
    Posts: 1

    I want to buy a VERY heavy-duty roto-tiller, walk behind, probably 20-24 inches wide, maybe more. I was going to buy Troy built; are they the strongest? What will really stand up to the beatings of a rough crew?
  2. Getmow

    Getmow LawnSite Senior Member
    from VA
    Posts: 445

    BCS tillers are commercial cuty tough. Me i bought a Honda...wish I had a BCS.
  3. jrblawncare

    jrblawncare LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 445

    Got a Troy Built Horse 7 hp.Great tiller...but its an older one about 10 years..But not sure of the newer ones..Troy Built..why did you do this...I don't think they are made like they used to be...Just my thoughts<p>----------<br>John <br>
  4. Keith

    Keith LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,977

    We have a BCS/7hp and it's ok. I don't use it that much, so it doesn't have to be that great. The handles seem a little weak though.

    SRKROTOTILLING LawnSite Member
    Posts: 7

    I have a BCS 830 and it is a great tiller but expensive, $2900.00 and not the best for breaking new ground. Counter rotating tines are best for breaking new ground.

    Replacing tines, especially the center ones, is really important for any tiller. A lot of tillers will work well as long as the tines are in good shape. I have to replace the center tines about every 50 hours on my tiller. The rest of the tines will last longer, but when in doubt, replace them. The expense is nothing compared to the agravation of a tiller not digging and cutting properly.

    Barreto makes a huge heavy duty tiller, but it will set you back about $4500.00 and frankly, after having rented one, I don't think it is worth it. One nice feature though is that you can switch it from forward to counter-rotating tines with the flip of a lever.

    I don't think any one tiller will do it all. You have to find a happy medium or buy a couple of tillers. I use my BCS 90% of the time. I use a 6.5 hp Craftsman rear tine for tight areas and for hard ground... then run over it with the BCS to break it up really fine.

    A Barreto would be deadly on a hillside due to it being top heavy. A BCS has a low center of gravity and is stable in all kinds of terrain.

    When all else fails I rent a machine and let it take the abuse of a really messy job.
  6. 65hoss

    65hoss LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,360

    Troybuilt went out of biz. They have been taken over and everything is the same now as far as suppliers and parts. But, the older stuff is heavier duty than the new stuff. If your looking at getting a troybuilt get an older Horse. I have one we got new in the early 80's and it still handles whatever I need, whenever I need it.
  7. Tony Harrell

    Tony Harrell LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 739

    I have a Troy Built super bronco (6.5 Intec engine). It's great for tilling ground that's previously been broken but, it's terrible at breaking new ground. Counter rotating tines are what's needed for breaking new ground. Those MTD or Husky models are very affordable and do a great job at breaking new ground. Like was said, if you can find an older Horse model by Troy Built, it's a great tiller. To explain the reason why the other Troy Built models are not good at new ground; the tines run in the same direction as the wheels and run twice the speed. When the tines take a bite, the machine can leap into the air (thank goodness for OPC). New ground can be broken but, you have to make many incremental passes to do so.
  8. Barkleymut

    Barkleymut LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,117

    I just bought an MTD rear tine tiller at Home Depot for $650. I've used it 4 times and it does a great job. I will only use it for small jobs and only about 4 or 5 times a year. I can't imagine spending over a grand for a tiller.
  9. DaddyRabbit

    DaddyRabbit LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 937

    It depends on rather you want a rear tine or mid tine application. I prefer mid tine as opposed to rear tine because you have more accessibility up close and personal w/structures, I.e, houses, fences where corners are concerned and they take up much less room on the ole trailer. I like the Maxim 5 h/p, it is virtually "bullet proof". If there is a lot of tilliage that needs to be done then here comes the 3 point hitch behind my tractor to the rescue.
  10. TurfGuyTX

    TurfGuyTX LawnSite Senior Member
    from DFW
    Posts: 648

    As stated earlier, I would recommend an older Troy-built Horse. They are one of the best you can find. Good luck.

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