Rotor Head Hookup question

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by turbosl2, Jul 6, 2012.

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  1. Wet_Boots

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    I would have thought about a booster, but the property size points more towards increasing the supply, and better to go all in on a well, maybe with an advanced pump, that could work with larger zones in the future.
     
  2. Mike Leary

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    A lot of areas will not permit a well if served by city water. I still think the OP has to get a grasp on his supply volume, pressure can be dealt with, but gpm cannot unless the supply can be increased with a larger meter, piping, etc. www.betterwaterind.com/flowmeter.html
     
  3. Wet_Boots

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    Lots of shallow wells went in during the early 60's drought, and deep wells too. Only later on did towns start getting protective, especially those with their own well-water systems. Indeed, I tried to talk one municipality into letting me dig a meter pit curbside, in order to tee into the very-long 3/4-inch copper supply line, so as to get a better flow. They weren't going for anything outside the box, and when I suggested the homeowners might seek to drill a deep well if they couldn't get the curbside meter, the town response was a calm absolute "No they won't."
     
  4. Mike Leary

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    Even if a well was permitted (doubtful), there would be the little issue of a Reduced-Pressure Backflow Assembly needed. In a lot of areas, an RP is also required for a booster pump and any sort of fertilizer injection into the system.
     
  5. Felco #2

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    Can you draw from surface waters in New York? Looks like there could be a lake or a river in the background but may just be something else in the pic.

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  6. turbosl2

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    I will give this a try. I think its a great idea. If i could cut back the zone times it is possible to water more frequently, such as in the AM, then again maybe at dinner time. Right now i dont water at dinner because of all the issues about fungas since the grass would be wet all night. right now at 40mins a zone its a must to break the system into two parts (one day front, the other back). The compost is just way to much work. Noone that i know would even try to do anything with almost 2 acres. I dont turn the sprinklers on until end of may, june 1. The system seems to keep the grass to hold its own while everyone else around here is burnt and dormant, unless they have shade or all weeds, the weeds seem to keep it green.

    I will lookup that moisture meter and order it up.

    I know it sounded like a good idea to just throw some topsoil down but noone in there right mind will spend that kind of money, you just have to live with what you got. And i think with your idea of the moisture meter it will prob bring me to watering totally different.

    How far do grass roots usually penetrate? I was told that every other day long watering per zone would force them to grow deeper in search of water. Whatever that means
     
  7. turbosl2

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    I would rather water it the way its suppose to. I am new to this and trying to keep a positive outlook. I have no issues with changing the watering schedule to what will work better.

    With the pointers everyone just needs to remember 16zones, at 20 mins a zone were talking over 5hrs to do the whole system. I still have not had a clear answer if watering at night is good or bad. Right now i start at 3:15am and have not seen an issue yet. The red thread appeared in may, and mostly in areas that trugreen did not fertilize properly. They had a guy walk the property with the little wand to do it. The recent application they brought a permagreen ride on unit that applied it much more even. Any area that was underfertilized seemed to be weedy and develop red thread. Its just starting to grow out
     
  8. greenmonster304

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    At least in this part on NY RPZs are not required on wells unless connected to a street supply and then it is on the street main. But this is Suffolk county though.

    if it was only for irrigation and the soil is as sandy as he says he could "wash down" a casing. In Maryland my brother washed down a 40' 4" casing with 10' of screen using two trash pumps with bentonite. He put in a 1 hp sub and got 18 gpm at 60.
     
  9. turbosl2

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    You are correct, its about 2500 gallons a day to do half the lawn, since i have it split in front one day, back the other. I have the well parts. I have two types of pumps, 3 points. 40gallon bladder tank...etc. I just have not put it in.
     
  10. turbosl2

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    I like this idea, i am ordering 2 of these to test them out.
     
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