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rusted away ball valve...

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by woodlawnservice, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. woodlawnservice

    woodlawnservice LawnSite Senior Member
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    Its a sonic but no lights where main is- go figure... I can't have it dug out and everything prepared before water is off. I know they r not busy enough in wee hours of night to not justify letting me shut them off for say an hour Max... just good planning ahead of time like u say for worst case senerios... threaders, lights, fittings,tools....
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  2. 1idejim

    1idejim LawnSite Fanatic
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    7 Ps Corey.
    Proper
    Planning &
    Preparation
    Prevents
    Piss
    Poor
    Performance
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  3. woodlawnservice

    woodlawnservice LawnSite Senior Member
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    I like that
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  4. mitchgo

    mitchgo LawnSite Silver Member
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    I like that too. Jim is always full of awesome information.
     
  5. 1idejim

    1idejim LawnSite Fanatic
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    What type pipe?
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  6. woodlawnservice

    woodlawnservice LawnSite Senior Member
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    Not sure yet.. if I was to guess id say pex but I'm not sure on age of building...if I remember correctly it looked like a hard pipe though... had soil all over it and have not dug it up to see. Just accessed it through small valve box. surely not galvanized...
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  7. 1idejim

    1idejim LawnSite Fanatic
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    Being this a commercial site there should be a BFA before the irrigation/after the main, shouldn't there? Just a thought.

    The size and type of pipe may make quite a difference in the plan of attack. The distance to the Sonic, where and how you can divert/direct the water to?

    Can you use an inflateable plug to stop the pressured down flow?

    How about a MA plug with an extension? The plug could be removed through the valve after the install.

    The quicker that you can slow or stop the water, the less chance for a cross thread.

    The less water, the cleaner the job and chance for problems.

    What will the city allow for you to do with the water? Will they allow you to dump it onto the AC parking lot? large amounts of water in a planter will flood it out and then you have a mess.

    Shutting down Sonics BFA will help but then will it have to be tested as per city?

    Just a few ? to help a guy sleep.
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  8. woodlawnservice

    woodlawnservice LawnSite Senior Member
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    What's some tips or tricks you guys have used in the past to get these things broke loose... just change handle? Spray with penetrating lubricator? Tap on it... vise grips...??
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  9. 1idejim

    1idejim LawnSite Fanatic
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    Will a sillcock key fit the stem?
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  10. woodlawnservice

    woodlawnservice LawnSite Senior Member
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    Dunno? Good question... hmmm
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