Scag engine decision?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by jr_golf, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. jr_golf

    jr_golf LawnSite Member
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    A buddy of mine is about to purchase a 61" turf tiger and needs some help with which engine to go with. Kawasaki 29 dfi, Kohler 31 efi, or the Briggs Vanguard 35. Is there a great difference in the fuel consumption of the three? Also, how much of a price difference between the three engines?
     
  2. tacoma200

    tacoma200 LawnSite Fanatic
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    Power wise yes there is a noticeable difference as you move up the HP scale. The 35 is pretty much a beast but it is the only air cooled one out of the group and the only non fuel injected one. I have two big block Briggs and I wold recommend them but not necessarily say they are better, just stronger. The Kohler has a 3 year warranty compared to 2 years for the Kawasaki and Briggs. At one time they dropped the 35 Briggs models below $10,000 for a promotional period. I would expect most dealers to want between $11,000 and $12,500 for the above models. It is hard to say since prices vary widely across the country for Scags. I tested both of my non fuel injected Briggs engines during normal use and got between 1.39 and 1.5 Gallons Per Hour (GPH) use. I don't doubt that in heavy cutting that figure might go to 2 GPH. The two efi/dfi model should do better in theory but I don't have any proof. The 29 dfi is the best seller in KY but some say it is a bit weak for them. All of these engines seem to have a good track record so I don't think your friend could go wrong. Great machines.
     
  3. jr_golf

    jr_golf LawnSite Member
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    thanks for the input
     
  4. MACKTRUCK

    MACKTRUCK LawnSite Member
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    thinking about getting a 2006 scag turf tiger with 29hp kaw dfi with 61'' velocity deck. Suspension seat, ocdc, clamshell bagger, 600 hours, flat free front casters. Does anyone have any comments or experiences with this mower? $6,000 price tag. Tell me what you think.
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  5. tacoma200

    tacoma200 LawnSite Fanatic
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    Well that's about half price of a new one and it's barely broken in, then ad the ocdc and bagger. Sounds good, but of course I can't tell how it was taken care of.
     
  6. MACKTRUCK

    MACKTRUCK LawnSite Member
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    I forgot to add that this is the liquid cooled engine. The mower was used for spring and fall clean ups for two seasons and then has been sitting since.
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  7. jlaw25

    jlaw25 LawnSite Member
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    Hey guys
    Trying to determine whether to purchase a scag wildcat 26HP Kaw liquid cooled? I currently run Hustler Mini Z mowers now.

    How is the quality of cut with Scag? I will be mulching 99% of the time.

    Also is there any additional maintenance with the liquid cooled engine?
     
  8. MOHUSTLER

    MOHUSTLER LawnSite Bronze Member
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    We sell both Scag and Hustler. The quality of cut on the scag is imo unmatched. The hustler is great dont get me wrong but the scag is top dog. And yes there will be aditional maintence with the LC engine. Add/change coolant, keep raidiator clean, ext..

    Both mowers have thier pros can cons. But you will be happy with either hustler or scag.
     
  9. jlaw25

    jlaw25 LawnSite Member
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    Thanks for the reply! Have any of your customers complained that the clogging of dry grass or leaves on that radiator screen has been a real problem???
     
  10. MOHUSTLER

    MOHUSTLER LawnSite Bronze Member
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    It will happen, but I dont belive that anyone has came in and said that its a "problem" . We just make sure to make them awar of it prior to the pruchase of the machine. Then if they dont think its something they can handle we steer them twards a air cooled engine.
     

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