Scag or Exmark?? Help please !!

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by JR LEWIS, Sep 17, 2008.

  1. JR LEWIS

    JR LEWIS LawnSite Member
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    I am new to this site but from reading through some threads, I have narrowed down my search for a 60" Zero turn to Scag or Exmark. I am mowing approx. 4 acres at my home. Nothing more, as in commercial work. I do want something to last a long time. I'm sure they both will do a great job. I've seen both.

    I was at the Exmark dealer and he told me he use to carry Scag and Ferris. He said the biggest problems he had with them were getting the pumps overheated. He went on to tell me that they both use a 10w30 oil in the pumps, so they need oil coolers. Then the fans draw dandelions and dust.... into the cooler radiator and if they are not kept clean, the pumps will oveerheat and burn up.

    He said the Exmark uses a synthetic oil in the pumps and does not require a cooler because of that.

    Please help with any and all advise. Both mowers are in the $8700.00 range. It's a lot of money for me, but I want to be the best the first time and not have to worry about these sort of things, right off the bat. I know things happen and can accept that, but with all the knowledge and experience from you folks on this site, I'm hoping to hear your advise on these two machines.

    Thank you in advance,


    J.R.
     
  2. jkingrph

    jkingrph LawnSite Senior Member
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    I have a Scag Wildcat and it has a hydro cooler. I have never had any problems with it clogging up. I did convert over to synthetic oil in the hydro system. Most if not all hydro systems use motor oil, the specs on mine require 20w50. I am into my third year of use , homeowner only and no problems. The one thing I do prefer on the Scag, vs the Exmark at the time I purchased was that Scag had user greasable spindle bearings, as well as grease fittings everewhere. The Exmark used sealed ball bearings on blade spindles, and my experience with this setup in the past was less than satisfactory, although not on a unit of the Exmark quality.
     
  3. ffemt1271

    ffemt1271 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    i've had exmarks since 2003. from 36" up to 72". i have only good things to say about then. never had a major breakdown, never had trouble getting parts (i have a good dealer though) and never had trouble with any of the bearings as mentioned earlier.
    mine also uses synthetic hydro oil with no cooler, never had a problem with it overheating.if you are going to use it for homeowner only it should last you forever.
     
  4. JR LEWIS

    JR LEWIS LawnSite Member
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    Thanks for the input. I guess it's a coin toss. The models I am looking at are the 2760 Exmark. Has 27 hp Koehler. The Scag is a Turf Tiger with a 27hp Koehler. Both are 60" decks. Someone call it. Heads, Exmark, Tails, Scag !!!!
     
  5. Intricate

    Intricate LawnSite Member
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    When I was deciding on which brand mower to buy for my residential property, I too wanted something of a commercial grade. So I would look at all the professional crews as I drove around doing my day job and noticed that, for my area, Central Texas, Scag was on a great majority of trailers. I'd say 6 or every 10. Exmark, Toro, and Hustler rounded out the rest.

    I haven't read a bad major review of a Scag mower and the closest Scag dealer has a great reputation.

    I went with Scag and haven't had a single regret.

    But I'm sure you'll be happy with any of the above. They all make great products.

    EDIT: I just saw that you were in the market for a Turf Tiger. I would love to have something like that in the budget. :(
     
  6. JR LEWIS

    JR LEWIS LawnSite Member
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    Thanks for the info. I'm demoing the Turf Tiger tomorrow. It's in a crate at the moment. Both Scag and Exmark dealers are within 7 miles of my home in opposite directions. Both have VERY good reputations in our area and are 3rd generation shops. I've got them both down to rock bottom, cash, out the door prices of... Scag, Turf Tiger, $ 8849.00.. The Exmark 2760, $8525.00. The Scag dealer says there is no comparison between the two. He says the Wildcat is more of a apples to apples comparison, but I like the Turf Tiger model. Is the $325.00 difference worth getting the Scag? They both are very nice.



    Thanks again,


    J.R.
     
  7. jkingrph

    jkingrph LawnSite Senior Member
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    If the Wildcat is a better comparison, my 52" was $7500 plus tax a couple of years ago. I think for the 325 with same engine I would go the Turf TIger, That thing is built like a tank, plus shaft drive to the deck so there is one less belt to worry about.
     
  8. JR LEWIS

    JR LEWIS LawnSite Member
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    I actually will not be paying sales tax. The Scag dealer is in Maryland. I live in PA. Only 6 miles from the state line. Being a out of state resident, no tax is to be collected. Just like ordering off the internet. I work in Maryland, so I could use my work address for the Exmark and not have to pay tax. That's a real good savings on both. Over $500.00. Leaning towards Scag, right now.
     
  9. Mike Blevins

    Mike Blevins LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Scag's recomendation for its hydro oil is 20w50. As far as your dealer telling you that they "need" oil coolers I would disagree. I would say that scag uses oil coolers to take their hydro systems to the next level. Another thing to look at is if you put in synthetic 20w50 in the Scag's hydro system then it must be bulletproof because it has an oil cooler also. Unlike the Exmark. Both great choices but after running Scag for the last five years I am a little biased. Good luck with your choice! whatever you get let us lawn junkies see some pics!
     
  10. Genlandscape

    Genlandscape LawnSite Member
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    You will get many opinions on this site. I am an eXmark guy and there are alot of Scag guys on here too. In my opinion it boils down to dealer support, and the machine that cuts your property better. I would demo both machines and purchase the one that better suits your needs. As far as quality, both of these products are "legendary' in this field, and opinions don't matter. Some machines cut different turf types better than others.
     

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