scag or Kubota?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by arl250, Jan 11, 2013.

  1. JCLawn and more

    JCLawn and more LawnSite Fanatic
    from MI
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    Ok is your gonna compare apples to apples a zd 221 is gonna use 3/4 gph and you would have to have a 35hp vangard bb to keep up with a zd331 and off road disel is usually 10 cents cheaper than gas. At 4000 hrs you would save a little bit more than $13,000 in fuel alone and if you add maintenance your looking at 14-15 grand over 4000 hrs. This is not adding the productivity of a diesel in either.
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  2. arl250

    arl250 LawnSite Senior Member
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    When you put it that way that's alot of money saved... I'm going to have to visit the dealer again to check the zd331 out they weren't really pushing them because it was such a heavy machine and he claims that it wouldn't do good at all on a hillside
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  3. JCLawn and more

    JCLawn and more LawnSite Fanatic
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    You have about over 1000lbs on 2 wheels and its a low center of gravity. I can do a 180 backing up a hill and I'm gonna say past a 45 degree slope. Most all the weight is on the rears. I even used mine snow plowing small parking lots. Also the smoothness of the hydos is a big plus and no belts! So nothing slacks up over time
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  4. LandFakers

    LandFakers LawnSite Fanatic
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    My 1000 pound Lazer is like a goat on hills. If it can run up and down hills, stop and turn around in the middle, and all the rest, im sure the much heavier Kubota will have 0 problems with it. Gotta make sure your running the right air pressure and if need be drop it on certain areas
     
  5. Sharps_lawn&landscaping

    Sharps_lawn&landscaping LawnSite Member
    from TN
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    I have a 35hp Tt and its not near as bad on gas. It's around 1.6 to 1.8 gph normally. It's had a ton of power which saves you time cutting thick grass. A lot more productive than my 29 efi Tt. Now it's the air cooled big block. The liquid cooled which they no longer put in them was a gas hog. Almost 3 gph.
     
  6. LandFakers

    LandFakers LawnSite Fanatic
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    1.6 isn't too bad for a 35!! I thought they eat much more than that.
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  7. arl250

    arl250 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I thought they did too but ive done my share of searching and that's what I'm finding on here so hopefully these guys are right because I'm about to pull the trigger and the vanguard is what I'm leaning toward
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  8. LandFakers

    LandFakers LawnSite Fanatic
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    What kind or price you getting? If you don't mind me asking
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  9. arl250

    arl250 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I think its a little higher that some but we have an excellent dealer but I'm getting the big block for 10900 or the kohler 27 hp for 10400 both have suspension seat and flat free front tires I was going to get the 31 hp kohler efi in a demo unit for 10000 but after I went to check it out it was in a little worse condition than I'd like looked like it had been demoed pretty hard
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  10. LandFakers

    LandFakers LawnSite Fanatic
    from CT
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    That's a real good price! I jump on either one, but that extra power for 500 more is great. Those 35's are supposed to last forever seeing as they don't ever have much of a load on them under most conditions. Good luck and throw up a picture when you get it
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