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Scag Turf Tiger

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by mach14604, Sep 18, 2012.

  1. orangemower

    orangemower LawnSite Silver Member
    from pa
    Posts: 2,773

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    You were the first person I thought of when I saw this thread. Great post.
    I have a feeling "Mach" hasn't cut tall over grown grass with his yet.
     
  2. mech1atgsk

    mech1atgsk LawnSite Member
    from NC
    Posts: 5

    I have run mine in tall wet grass here on our farm and it powered right along. I just bought this Scag TT w/cat this month. I sold my old Scag TT with 27 Kawasaki because I was unhappy with power when cutting just such grass.

    mech1atgsk
     
  3. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 8,829

    If you think the 3 cylinder 28 Cat has ample power, you would be blown away by the 35 hp Vanguard, and if you could get a 35 Cat on a TT you would be shocked beyond comprehension.
     
  4. LibertyFarmLandscaping

    LibertyFarmLandscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
    from NE TX
    Posts: 1,062

    Wonder if you could turn up the 28 cat some how without voiding the warranty?
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  5. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
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    Absolutely not, the warranty would be void...no one except Cat technicians are allowed to touch these engines.
     
  6. mach14604

    mach14604 LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 231

    The 31 Kohler is absolute piece of junk. good on fuel but uses coolant likes its going out of style. I was on engine number three and still wasn't totally right. Thing spent more time in the shop then mowed grass.
     
  7. mach14604

    mach14604 LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 231

    I spent just over 15600 out the door with bid assist.
     
  8. LibertyFarmLandscaping

    LibertyFarmLandscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
    from NE TX
    Posts: 1,062

    My last 35 hp Vanguard I bought in June was $9400 +tt&l. The 28 cat would have been $14950.
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  9. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 8,829

    You got a very good deal on what is considered an excellent mower and engine. It takes a lot of work to make up $5550, and I personally would not want a liquid cooled engine on a mower.

    You will never replace a radiator, or even cleaned one, never have a water leak, or water pump failure, never have to check coolant levels, worry about watching a temperature gauge, as many hired laborers never look at anyway. You will never wonder how a head gasket failed, or a head cracked if the engine does not have the alarm system working, and someone failed to see it was running hot...these are things you want deal with on air cooled engine.

    The reason I'm saying this is because I was brought a new mower with a 28 hp Cat diesel to see what I thought. The first thing I noticed was the extreme vibration from the 3 cylinder engine. I mentioned this to the dealer and he said the manufacturer was sending a newly designed bracket to each owner that bought this particular diesel; for the fact they were having problems with the exhaust system separating from the engine because of excessive vibration from the 3 cylinder Cat.

    I ran this mower for maybe 30 minutes or so (remember this was a new mower, never operated, meaning perfectly clean), and all of a sudden the engine rpms dropped to idle. I was totally shocked, and believed something happen to the fuel delivery, that was until I looked at the control panel and saw a warning light. I got off the mower and glanced behind the seat at the radiator, there was a pre-screen to keep trash from getting to the radiator flues (which is a necessity), and the pre-screen was totally covered. I was cutting medium size grass in dry summertime conditions, and it appeared all the dry grass particles I had stirred up when mowing had sucked directly into this pre-screen.

    I had to leave the mower and walk about 200 yds. to get a hand-held blower, I came back, switched the mower off and blew the trash off the screen and out of the radiator area. I then blew the entire mower and engine completely clean.

    I immediately thought to myself, why would anyone want to deal with this hassle when you can run an air cooled engine and not be bothered with this type aggravation.
     
  10. mach14604

    mach14604 LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 231

    What are you mowing to get that much debris in the screen? Normal mowing conditions you should not be having that kind of problem. This is my third liquid cooled machine and have never had that kind of problem. :confused: My dads JD2305 yes we have had to do that.
     

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