Scag V Ride VS. Toro Grandstand - The Rundown

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by GroundWorkx, Sep 25, 2012.

  1. jbell36

    jbell36 LawnSite Bronze Member
    from KANSAS
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    no the GS walk position is simply worthless, it throws the weight distribution way off and loses all traction...BUT, they are great on hills in the stand position...i also like the stand on position/platform better than any stander out there...the biggest downfall i have heard about the v ride is hillside stability, but apparently there is something you can do about it...

    great review, although even as you stated it's not apples to apples...i love our grandstands, the cut is awesome in any grass, tall short, dry wet, etc...one thing that you might have experienced is toro's discharge thing they have on their decks...it's worthless as well, you should make sure it's wide open or even take it off, it has the "A" "B" "C" settings...the more i compare the better i like our grandstands, and we even have the first year gs's with the most problems...i agree tho, they should make them go faster...we tweaked ours so they do go faster, but still, the competition is getting faster and faster...
     
  2. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
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    I can't speak for every standon but my GS does fine, but it does have it's limits, I found out last week, as I went over the limit with mine. I was on a very steep incline on a bermuda yard I had it in walk mode and it took off sliding when I tried to turn it uphill to make another pass, What I discovered is you have to walk it up and back it down a steep incline, not try to turn around or even go side to side with it, but after talking to several other LCO that use sit downs they told me it's the same for them even with a sit down, so there is no advantage to a sit down even on steep incline's.
     
  3. sjessen

    sjessen LawnSite Silver Member
    Male, from Knoxville, Tn
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    That has been my experience as well.
     
  4. cgaengineer

    cgaengineer LawnSite Fanatic
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    That's what I've been trying to explain...and when it noses down its going...ain't no stopping it and it can be quite dangerous.
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  5. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
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    I'm just thankful that I was able to get it to stop before it went over this guys retaining wall, I laugh now but I was freaking out when it was happening Lesson learned for sure. I just ordered a 23HP kawasaki 52" GS for next season. Saves a lot of room and weight on the trailer. Honestly how fast do you need to cut anyway? It's plenty fast enough for me.
     
  6. cgaengineer

    cgaengineer LawnSite Fanatic
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    I've crashed into a fence with vride that was at the bottom of a hill, almost ran into a gulley.
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  7. sjessen

    sjessen LawnSite Silver Member
    Male, from Knoxville, Tn
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    My first reaction used to be to pull back on the controls. Only thing that accomplished was bigger skid marks. What seems to work better is to try to turn out of the slide. With experience one can tell when it is about to get away from you.
     
  8. sjessen

    sjessen LawnSite Silver Member
    Male, from Knoxville, Tn
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    8 mph is fine for my mid sized residentials.
     
  9. GroundWorkx

    GroundWorkx LawnSite Member
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    I saw your post and discovered 1 weight on the front of our 61. I removed and the front end will come up off the ground a little now. We'll see how much difference it makes. It probably won't be as drastic as you removing the weights off your 48.

    Adding weight to the rear may be the next step.
     
  10. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
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    I think every mower has it's limits no matter if it's a sit down or standon, I honestly think it's mostly a personal preference thing, I seen sitdowns go out of control also on hills, saw one sliding down a hill almost into traffic this past summer, as I was driving by, I felt bad for the guy he was defintly out of control.
     

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