Seating wall and fireplace

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by jgrand, Jul 2, 2013.

  1. scagrider22

    scagrider22 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Like I said, just because it was in the catalog does not mean it looks good or was built correctly. I understand homeowners see things in catalogs and want it, it's up to you to educate them and talk them into doing it right or not at all. I would love to see a link to the catalog that was in. I'm not starting "$h1t", the seat wall looks to low, the vertical supports are to far apart and the coping only overlapping the front looks funny.
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  2. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    Google Cambridge pavers. Probably the 2011 or 2012 catalog. The wall is 16", the vertical supports are centered under the joints in the caps. They didn't want a monstrosity of a wall in their yard, just a little something affordable that would provide some definition from the yard and quick seating. Aka exactly what they got.

    Whats the code height for a seating wall? Whats the code vertical support spacing? Oh they don't have that do they.... So you're speaking from opinion. Which is ok. But don't state it as fact
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  3. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    RJ, buddy, you need to stop
    Defending yourself and lately you've taken a stance of arguing with me persistently.

    The corner on your border is bad.

    Have you ever heard the term "cornerstone"?!

    I'm trying to open your eyes that your border corners are bad.

    Do as you want. You can be the rookie contractor who doesn't know how to make borders. Or you can be the guy that knows how to give corners a knock out appearance. You can argue and argue or you can learn :)

    It's up to you!
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  4. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    Corners bad.. DVS good.. Check
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  5. PaperCutter

    PaperCutter LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Whenever a client thinks they want a seat wall around a firepit I remind them that every time you're around a fire, it's the same thing: scoot the chair forward, scoot the chair backward, scoot the chair forward... you rarely see a seat wall in my designs. Plus most of them are fugly.
  6. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Formal seat walls with lighting are great if the design has them far enough back to acomadate arangeable seating around the feature.
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  7. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
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    Best way is to make a firepit and put chairs. Cause your moving em forward, then movin em backwards. Try that with a seatwall.
    DVS, you have a good point on the corners.
  8. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    Built in grills. Contractors are so proud to build them. Can't wait to post pictures. me - i think some are nice to look at, but i like a grill that you can roll around and move with the wind.
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  9. knox gsl

    knox gsl LawnSite Fanatic
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    I agree, or easily replace when beyond its time.
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