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Share some seed formulas,,, I'm Stupped.

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by fastrunner, Mar 28, 2002.

  1. fastrunner

    fastrunner LawnSite Member
    Posts: 96

    hi, take a look at these formulas... Im just a rookie at this so be easy on me.. i dont know if im high or low or in the ballpark??

    I figure the seed cost me around $1.50/LB. So with delivery and everything, i figured i would charge $2.00/LB.

    All of these cost are with the seed included and overseeded with a broadcast spreader at 4 LB/1000sq. ft. This is with no prep work, just the seed cost and labor price. Just say the lawn is already thatched and aerated, and ready to be overseeded.

    minimum 1000 sq. ft. $35.00
    1000-2000 sq. ft $50.00
    2000-3000 Sq. ft. 60.00
    3000-4000 Sq. ft $ 70.00
    4000-5000 sq. ft.$80.00

    10,000 sq. ft $130.00


    Plus, i would like to get some other formulas going.
    like installing Stone and mulch.. I came up with

    mulch
    $50.00/Yd installed and deliverd

    stone 1-3"
    $75.00 yard installed and deliverd

    Am i in the ballpark..
    thanks guys, youve all been a great help to me on this site.
    jeff
     
  2. KirbysLawn

    KirbysLawn Millenium Member
    Posts: 3,486

    The overseeding prices look high. You said 4 pounds per k and charge $2, it shows $35 per k for 4 pounds of seed, quite high just to apply seed.
     
  3. fastrunner

    fastrunner LawnSite Member
    Posts: 96

    So do you think that i should just charge about 2 times the price of the seed?

    So for 5000 sq. ft of overseeding at 4LBs/k you have 20Lbs of seed. 20LBS @ 2.00 is $40.00 just in seed. so is double is $80.00
     
  4. Dennis Watson

    Dennis Watson LawnSite Member
    from 38221
    Posts: 10

    I don't know what you are overseding with, but I think your seeding rate is a bit on the low side. We use a lot of Ky. 31 tall fescue and Confederate fescue (blend) here. The recommended rate for establishing is 6-7 Lbs. per 1000 sq. ft. We always use around 14-15 lbs. to give a better stand and to reduce the clumping that goes with a thin stand of fescue. For overseeding, we use 8-10 lbs. per 1000 square feet. With seed at $2.00/lb.,
    I charge from .02-.025 cents per 1000 square foot. For small areas, I think you need to set a mimimum charge. For example, 1000 ft x .025=$25. Minus seed cost only gives you $5 for spreading. Can't do that unless it is your next door neighbor and not much of that. Hope this is helpful. DW
     
  5. From what I've seen on this site I'd say your mulch prices are low.

    The stone prices I'm sure are low. Stone's pretty cheap. Here it's $8.60/ton. But a yard of stone weighs 2700# Handling it gets expensive, and it needs landscape fabric weed barrier under it.

    I could install it for $75/ton but not per yard. Plus I don't live in Chicago either. Things are probably cheaper here.

    I wish I could get 1-3" stone. All I can find locally in a decent looking river stone is #57.
    The 1-3" stone may weigh a little less than #57s'

    I'm referring to small amounts of decorativwe stone like what I installed in the pic below.
     
  6. From what I've seen on this site I'd say your mulch prices are low.

    The stone prices I'm sure are low. Stone's pretty cheap. Here it's $8.60/ton.
    But a cubic yard of size #57 stone weighs about 2700#. Maybe a little less for the larger 1-3" stones.
    Handling it gets expensive, plus it needs landscape fabric weed barrier under it.

    I wish I could get the 1-3" stone. All I can find locally that looks decent is size #57 river stone.

    I'm talking about small amounts of decorative stone like what I installed in the pic below.
    A bigger job could be cheaper.

    stone&edging~1.jpg
     
  7. fastrunner

    fastrunner LawnSite Member
    Posts: 96

    so do most of you guys charge for stone deliverd, installed, finished product.. all in one.. So if $75.00/YD is low, then how does $90.00/YD sound.. And for mulch.. how does $55.00 YD installed sound. thanks. jeff
     
  8. Patrick Harvey

    Patrick Harvey LawnSite Member
    Posts: 9

    Down here in KY I charge $40 a yrd for brwon mulch (my cost is $5 a yrd) $45 ayrd cypress (my cost is $30 a yrd) black is $55 a yrd ( my cost is $25 but I have to drive an hour to get it). Another system I use is for shrub trimming: $3 per plant for small shrubs(boxwoods, spireia, ect) $5 for medium sized plants (yews, ect) $10 larger plants I can reach without a ladder. What it all boils down to is $60 an hr. I look at a plant if I can trim it in 5 min its a $5 shrub, pretty simple and works well for me. I can bid very large jobs very Quickly
    Patrick Harvey
    Harvey Lawn Care
    Providence, KY
     
  9. AltaLawnCare

    AltaLawnCare LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 962

    Your best bet is to call a LCO in another town about 30 or 50 miles away and see what their rates are, because it varies soo much around the country. You'll need to charge as much as yuor market will bear.

    Around here overseeding is about 4.5 cents per SqFt, so...

    a 1/4 acre lawn (10,000 - 11,000sqft) is around $500.00 :
    Includes Core Aerating , 10-12 lbsMSqFt Tall Fescue, and Starter Fertilizer and a soil test...;)

    Stone & mulch is much harder to figure because sometimes the beds need work, sometimes you can back your truck right up to the bed, but sometimes you may have to wheel barrow it several hunded feet.
     

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