side sloping track loader?

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by tnmtn, Mar 19, 2006.

  1. tnmtn

    tnmtn LawnSite Bronze Member
    from NE Tn.
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    i am looking at a job to install a driveway on the side of a pretty steep hill. there will be a couple switchbacks involved going from the road down to the parking area. i was thinking about using a track loader with a blade attachment to cut in the rough grade. i was wondering what is the max slope that is safe to side slope a track loader? any info would be appreciated.
    thanks,
    metin
     
  2. vntgrcr

    vntgrcr LawnSite Senior Member
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    Not sure what kind of soil you have but it sounds as though you need a real dozer, maybe a D3 or 4. The track machines are great but I can't see one actually cutting in a road from scratch. It might work, but your going to have to take very small bites and your time could be cut in half if not more with a dozer.
     
  3. thepawnshop

    thepawnshop LawnSite Senior Member
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    I think 30 degrees is about the standard and max rating for side slope work.
     
  4. tnmtn

    tnmtn LawnSite Bronze Member
    from NE Tn.
    Posts: 1,017

    i had thought about a dozer. the ground is mostly loose soil, very soft. i was concerned that a dozer might have a tendancy to slide with the extra weight. also access to the area where it is at is pretty tough. i will have to park the trailer about a mile from where the work is. very curvy gravel forest roads. a house is not going to be built there. the land is used for a few guys to go hunting. they just would like to be able to pull their trucks off the road to where they will be out of sight. i appreciate the replies.
    metin
     
  5. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    Your better off with a excavator mini or fullsize don't bother fooling around with a bulldozer or trackloader your way too limited. A 160 sized excavator could cut a decent road in a day even a 161 Kubota size machine can cut a road in easy.

    We have some steep driveways here and I mean steep the one next to my place is so steep when they were building it they needed to lower the dump trucks down with a dozer. Another driveway I worked on was so steep the excavator wouldn't sit without sliding.

    When your cutting into a bank or a hillside that is soft you need to cut in a good distance it should be minimum 10' wide it should be 14' wide. You will need to make sure the edge doesn't sluff off. You will need to get on the upperside of the slope and pull the material back and bench it.

    Without pictures to see what your dealing with is hard to give you any ideas but like I said we have some of the worst driveways you can imagine here. Even concrete'ed tires will spin because its too slippery one guy I know has a driveway that is concrete is so steep he needs 4wheeldrive to climb it.
     
  6. tnmtn

    tnmtn LawnSite Bronze Member
    from NE Tn.
    Posts: 1,017

    gravel rat,
    the excavator with a grading blade was my other option. i am leaning more that way the more i think about it. just don't have a lot of experiance with track loaders and wanted to see if that might be an option. i'll probably stick to the tried and true method. also, if you are still missing your old idi ford mine is for sale. runs like a top.
    take care,
    metin
     
  7. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    The PSD runs good just aslong it doesn't break parts are a little pricey. I'am used to the bigger power now :laugh:
     
  8. JDSKIDSTEER

    JDSKIDSTEER LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Go to www.skidsteer.com

    John Deere has an excellent video on that site comparing all track loaders on side slopes. It may help you decide if a track unit will work for you.
     
  9. Dirty Water

    Dirty Water LawnSite Fanatic
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    I don't believe that video for a minute. I know that people who are not used to pilot controls have a harder time going in a straight line, but how do we know the operator wasn't monkeying around a little to make the deer look better.

    :nono:
     
  10. JDSKIDSTEER

    JDSKIDSTEER LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Have you tried them both on same conditions on the same job site? The biggest problem I have seen is the weight distribution of the machine. Rear end heavy machines slide and that is a fact. If you have not done it you don't need to make statements like that.
     

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