Simplicity Citation VS exmark Lazer Z AS

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by dcook, Oct 5, 2006.

  1. dcook

    dcook LawnSite Member
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    I am starting my business, and have been looking at the Simplicity Citation. This is Simplicity's commercial grade ZTR. It has a 52" deck and 23 HP Briggs engine. My dealer also sells exmark ZTR's. The exmark Lazer Z AS compares to the Simplicity Citation. My dealer claims the Citation is in the same ballpark as the exmark, and is slightly less expensive. I am aware of the quality of exmark, and I know of many professional companys that use exmark. My question is do any of you have any experience with Simplicity commercial ZTR mowers? If they are as good as my dealer says they are, why don't I see any professionals using them? I am leaning towards the Simplicity because I am just getting started and could use the price difference to invest in other equipment.
     
  2. tacoma200

    tacoma200 LawnSite Fanatic
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    The AS is a great mower to start out with and has one of the best decks out there. I see plenty of professionals using them and few with the Simplicity. I would lean the other way if I were you. I have owned an AS and it is basically the origianal Lazer Z. This is a no contest decision, Exmark with the Ultracut deck is one of the better machines out there. You'd be better of to try to save some bucks on the equipments starting out than you main piece of equipment. Nobody will know which trimmer you used, or which blower but when they see the cut quality that says everything. No brainer in this case, I am 100% positive you should get the Exmark over the Simplicity. Make that 200% sure no matter what others may say.
     
  3. tacoma200

    tacoma200 LawnSite Fanatic
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    If you want to save some money there are alot of guy on this forum that like the "comercial" Cub tanks. Ask ProStreetCamaro or Envy Lawn because they have experience with these Cub/Leso mowers. I personally don't think you could do much better starting out than the AS Lazer. Get the foot pedal option about $75. As far as your dealer telling you about quality of the Simplicity (which I don't know about) most dealers stand behind and will say that the equipment they sell is quality. Watch the other LCO's in your area and see what they pull. Having an Exmark on the lawn tells others that you care about your work quality. This goes for many other brands. I've never seen a Simplicity on a contractors trailer, never. They may be ok equipment, I don't know but the AS I do know. Put mine through thing that should have been done with a larger mower and it never let me down.
     
  4. metro36

    metro36 LawnSite Silver Member
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    Nothing of simplicity's is commercial. All of it is designed for homeowners. Go with a lazer and you will never look back. :cool2: :cool2: :cool2:
     
  5. zim bob the landscaper

    zim bob the landscaper LawnSite Bronze Member
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    how would you no u dont own a machine like that. even though i would have to agree with you because unless its a vanguard your right.
     
  6. Jpocket

    Jpocket LawnSite Silver Member
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    Ditto Everything.
     
  7. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
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    Well, here is the straight up of it....

    The Simplicity Citation is just a little better looking Ferris IS1500 with half the warranty for commercial use. All Simplicity versions are this way... dunno why.

    Anyways, for that kind of money, no question I would go with the Lazer AS. Yeah, the back tires suck if you have to mow slopes and such. But better tires don't cost that much (dunno why eXmark uses those).

    It has also been well established as fact that the UltraCut on the Lazer FAR out-cuts the Ferris/Simplicity deck. Plus you get a tired and true design that is battle proven and twice the warranty period.

    Yes, the new Lesco/Cub Commercial ZTR's are also GREAT and can be found at great prices in some areas of the country. Cub offers a longer warranty period though I think.
     
  8. jarroo's lawncare

    jarroo's lawncare LawnSite Member
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    i run a lazer as 60 inch and have to say it is an awesome machine. the only thing that i am unsatisfied with is the mulching kit price. there is a four inch deep deck and a five inch deck one is more expensive, the four inch deck by forty dollars that is the one i have. anyways go with the exmark you will love it.
     

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