Skid Steer Bolt-on Tracks

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by GreenMonster, Feb 2, 2006.

  1. GreenMonster

    GreenMonster LawnSite Silver Member
    from NH
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    Are you guys familiar with these? I wasn't aware they were available and saw them at the NE Grows show yesterday.

    Basically, it is a bolt-on track system for skid steers. Take your tires off, slide on the track assembly and bolt to the wheel hubs. Maybe the best of both worlds?

    I stopped by the booth a few times throughout the day, and there was always a line of people waiting to talk, so I didn't get to talk to anyone. This must be a fairly new product. I talked to at least 5 different dealers this fall when shopping for a new skid, unsure if I was going wheels or tracks, and no one mentioned this to me. Not even the dealer at the show that had the display. :confused:

    Advantages to this system? Disadvantages? What do you think?
     
  2. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
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    Yeah, the Loegering VTS system. Excellent system, but they're $15K.
     
  3. Tigerotor77W

    Tigerotor77W LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Germany
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    I doubt you'll find any manufacturer's dealer that will explicitly endorse the VTS system. For sure, Bobcat doesn't like it.
     
  4. AintNoFun

    AintNoFun LawnSite Bronze Member
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    im sure for another few thousand you could find a decent used track machine rather than buying the tracks..
     
  5. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
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    The advantages of the VTS system make it much more versatile than a tracked machine. The cost is definately a downside, but being able to switch back to tires and not putting wear on expensive tracks when they aren't needed is definately nice. Plus, the VTS is somewhat suspended which makes for a little nicer ride vs. an unsuspended CTL.
     
  6. Dirty Water

    Dirty Water LawnSite Fanatic
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    In my opinion, if your in a situation so bad that you need a tracked machine ove r a wheeled one...you probably don't care about damaging turf.

    So smack steel over the wheel tracks on that puppy.
     
  7. jreiff

    jreiff LawnSite Senior Member
    from MN
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    We looked into getting them. We plow in the winter and wanted a wheeled machine for that and then tracks for the landscape season. The Bobcat dealer had them on a S250 that we were going to demo for snow, but the storm missed us. So we just messed around at the shop. Nice set up. Fairly smooth ride. Takes a couple hours to switch over. The 2 down falls were the cost, $15 K and spendy to replace and that when using them, only the back two wheels spin the tracks, the front two just basically spin, no power from the front. Did not really get a good chance to test it out in dirt, mud, sand, etc...
     
  8. Tigerotor77W

    Tigerotor77W LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Germany
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  9. GreenMonster

    GreenMonster LawnSite Silver Member
    from NH
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    That was what I immediately thought of. Snow removal is still the big downside with CTL's. Just thinking that this system might give you the best of both worlds, albeit with a large price tag.
     
  10. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
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    I spoke with an engineer friend of mine from Bobcat and as Xing said they are not well thought of (VTS tracks) by Bobcat. Their testing showed structural problems with the system and a (severely) negative impact on the drivetrain of a skid steer. CASE had said the same thing. One thing I know for sure, if you have problems with your skid steer it most certainly will be on you to pay for any repairs (as it relates to drivetrain). The problem described to me is too much traction and no way to release it (such as spinning tires). Honestly I used to doubt I would see any problems with the drivetrain on my machines if I ran the system. I have had many machines and never had a problem with the drivetrain on any of them. I am starting to wonder now, that and 13-15K is a lot of money for an attachment.
     

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