Slit seeded 4 weeks ago, very little grass showing

Discussion in 'Homeowner Assistance Forum' started by dae06, Sep 25, 2012.

  1. Darryl G

    Darryl G LawnSite Fanatic
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    Just a side note: You can't rely on those settings on the seeders...they're all different. It kind of drives me nuts that ever time I rent one I have to calibrate it, making wish I owned one so that I could "get to know it." What I do is put 5 pounds or so in to start with and see what kind of coverage I get and then tweak the setting. Also, make sure that the inside of the hopper is clean with no pieces of bag in them...people tend to get pieces and parts of woven seed bags in the hoppers that get wrapped up in the little paddle and can restrict the flow. It also drives me nuts that just because you close the gate doesn't mean it stops dropping seed.
     
  2. DA Quality Lawn & YS

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    Darryl very true what I find with seeders is they drop WAAAY too much seed down for the setting as indicated on the chart on the machine. I.E. you start out running a setting 7, and run 10 lbs of seed out after 10 feet:) End up at a setting 2.
     
  3. Darryl G

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    I fill the hopper from a can that we got with cookies or popcorn or something in it as a holiday gift. I use it to scoop out of the 50 pound seed bags. It happens to hold right around 5 pounds of seed and has a cover too. I can put seed in it in the spring and toss it in my truck for fixing plow damage or whatever...keeps it dry and keeps the mice out too.
     
  4. PT777

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    I just had my front yard put in with new screened soil (10,400 sq ft) and they applied 75lbs of seed. Does that sound right?
     
  5. DA Quality Lawn & YS

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    7 lbs per K sounds pretty good. Hope it was a high quality seed blend and not annual rye or K31.
     
  6. PT777

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    Tag off of bags read:

    Elite Mixture

    20% Patriot 4 Rye
    20% Stellar Rye
    20% Wild Horse KBG
    20% Homegrown Rye
    20% Gaelic KBG

    All from Oregon and it says all rye is perennial.
    Purchased from local farm and seed supplier.
     
  7. gqnine44

    gqnine44 LawnSite Senior Member
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    That mix will germinate fast and look great this fall but then struggle next summer when things get hot and dry. Rye is commonly used by construction guys and lazy landscapers who just want germination and don't want to take the time to establish a turf type tall fescue lawn.

     
  8. Darryl G

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    Woah, woah, woah! So TTTF is the only type of grass that should be grown? I'm a big fan of TTTF for low maintenance areas, poor soil in full sun, etc...basically places where it's about the only thing that has a chance of surviving the summer, but there are more desirable grasses out there, IMO. TTTF is a fairly coarse grass that grows fairly rapidly and tends to fall over by the time you show up to cut it the following week, doesn't handle shade very well, doesn't repair itself or spread well. I much prefer the fine fescues in most cases mixed with a little PR and KBG in my area.
     
  9. maynardGkeynes

    maynardGkeynes LawnSite Senior Member
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    Can't say as I agree -- I think that is a pretty good mix (60%PRG/40%KBG), and will establish a very nice KBG lawn. By seed count it's overwhelmingly KBG, which means that when it gets hot next year the KBG should start to out-compete the ryegrass. A KBG lawn is not a lazy contractors lawn IMO. However, its getting a little late to give the KBG the best chance to establish. I also agree with the above comments on TTTF. Not my favorite for a really fine lawn, although it's great for low maintenance situations in many areas.
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2012
  10. gqnine44

    gqnine44 LawnSite Senior Member
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    The KBG wouldnt be too bad but it is no guarantee that will germinate. KBG is a harder to establish and often home owners lack the watering dilegence needed. We know the Rye will come up and will likely burn out next summer without high levels of care. In my opinion, and in my area (could be different elsewhere) TTTF is really the only choice.
     

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