Soil Perculation

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by Smallaxe, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. greendoctor

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    In Cal, the only problem I can think of is when it gets hot. Otherwise, if there is total control of the soil and irrigation, even that is survivable. I thought I had it bad until I found out about how most people on the forum have to manage non irrigated cool season grasses. That would drive me crazy.
     
  2. Kiril

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    Yes, that is TTTF with total control over irrigation. Water is a PGR too. As far as the soil goes, it is your typical construction native trash soil. BTW, that fescue is deficit irrigated.

    Profile of that turf.

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  3. greendoctor

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    That is what I thought. TTTF also has a low requirement for fertility. Most people get into trouble with too much N with TTTF.
     
  4. greendoctor

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    Deficit irrigation is one of the ways I keep bermuda and zoysia from needing twice a week mowings. ET here is 1.25" per week. I supply 1" or less.
     
  5. greendoctor

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    I would take that over what is called soil here in a heartbeat.
     
  6. Kiril

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    At the time of that pic, that soil is the result of about 16 years of careful management. Then last year it all went to hell in a hand basket as a result of heavy construction traffic. Much of the soil in the valley is class 2, class 1 if irrigated, which does make management somewhat easier, even if it has been farmed to death before it was built on.
     
  7. Duekster

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    Our winter overseed with PR is about as trouble fee as you could ask for.

    Even at peak ET, as high as 2 inches per week we still run at 1" of water but the lawns do not look too good but average
     
  8. greendoctor

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    Growing grass is its own soil conditioning and aeration mechanism. I have almost all Class 2 soils with serious chemistry issues. I love Class 1 soils not layered with Class 2 soils because those are the sites fixable with compost.
     
  9. Duekster

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    I have no clue what class around here or what I have but calling soil after the home builder gets done is a stretch :laugh:
     
  10. greendoctor

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    I told you how builders ruin the ground for support of plant life. Many people have been taken by that move. Soil testing tells all.
     

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