soil prep charge for a sod job.

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  1. unit28

    unit28 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Is there a formula for pricing?


    I have an estimate for sodding the entire property with bluegrass.
    A new resident bought a neglected home that's 3 years old.
    The front is new dead sod.
    The back is a quagmire of atrocious weeds


    the front is nice and leveled, old sod needs to be pulled up.
    the back is not leveled but is flat[ish] and full of tall weeds.

    I need 2200 square yards of sod.
    The process will be extreme.

    Front -
    pull old sod, roundup the weeds, add soil amenment, till it to 2" ,rake out debri, add starter fert, throw down new sod.

    Back -
    Mow and bag
    roundup
    till
    rake debri
    till to 4-6"
    add amendment
    till to 2"
    rake debri and level
    add starter fert
    throw down new sod

    Too Much Work? The back yard is nastier than the backwoods
    of Boggy Creek


    As far as the equipment, I'll be renting it.
    The sod is 1.24 per sq yard

    How would you do it, and what's a good way to process the numbers to for a price?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. bahamamills

    bahamamills LawnSite Member
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    Just curious on how you plan to till it or with what. Not sure I understand why you need to pull the old sod unless you are tilling all by hand.
     
  3. unit28

    unit28 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Would this work?



    Sod - we incorporate extra for damaged or flawed sod
    Yards _______ $ __________ Type ___________
    Debris - Removal per trailer or placed on site $_____________
    Soil Preparation Mow, Bag, Irradicate, Till , Rake - remove rocks and debris, Amend soil, Till again, Final grade $___________________
    Install Includes - Laying, Rolling $___________________________
    Water - customer has been instructed to do so_______________
    You should water your new lawn every day for the first week (except, of course, on rainy days) and a couple of times a day if the weather is especially hot.
    After the first week, gradually begin stretching out the times between watering, as this encourages the roots to grow downward, seeking moisture deeper in the soil. However, make sure you water deeply.
    ----------------------------------------------------------



    I guess these are the ones that concearns me.
    How would you figure these?



    Soil Preparation Mow, Bag, Irradicate, Till , Rake - remove rocks and debris, Amend soil, Till again, Final grade $___________________
    Install Includes - Laying, Rolling $___________________________
     
  4. unit28

    unit28 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,557


    I was just making it easier to get the new sod down.
    If I can just till it i I will,.
    It's dead.
    I'll be using a tractor with a tiller mostly.

    or I can use a sod cutter to remove it...I dunno.
     
  5. mini14

    mini14 LawnSite Member
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    ive been laying new sod over old for many years now, i just dont see the need to remove the old if the ground isnt full of divits or way above grade. sod will grow on concrete forever if kept watered are u just trying to ad extra $$$ to the bill ?
     
  6. unit28

    unit28 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,557

    Yes and No.
    #1 I'm getting big jobs like this and bigger.
    So I want to get in and out asap.

    We all should strive to do quality work and get paid for it.
    I just want it to grow well, without an unhappy customer

    If just throwing the new sod down will make it grow on top of the old.
    I'm all for it.

    Time is money so, if I can shorten this job up, I will.
    I'm sure I can just upcharge the sod and other aspects pertaining to the job
    to make out financially well ahead and not behind.



    Thank you for the advice.
     
  7. bahamamills

    bahamamills LawnSite Member
    Posts: 187

    I think you will be fine just to kill then till drag and pack some. the dead turf will actually help with the growth of the new. If you use a 3-pt till it will pulverize what ever is left there. Same with the back if you have enough soil kill, till, lime and fertilize if needed and you should be ready.

    I would think you would kill yourself on time if you do the rest. Estimate for the job and as you had put the quote "Soil Prep" which can be the kill, till and fertilize etc..
     
  8. SDNCLAWNCARE

    SDNCLAWNCARE LawnSite Member
    Posts: 232

    I would always remove the old sod. I just think that is the better way of doing a sod job. Prepping the soil is the hardest part of the job. I did a small sod job over the past weekend, turned out real nice.
     
  9. unit28

    unit28 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,557

    Thank you all for the replys.
    I have a few weeks to do it.
    The sod won't be ready for a few weeks and......
    It's snowing again:cry:
     

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